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    A number of years ago, someone asked us a sincere question regarding the message of William Branham.  We diligently tried to answer the question but the results of our research raised a lot more questions.  We spent several years researching these issues which only raised more questions.
    A number of years ago, we received a sincere question in an email regarding the message of William Branham.  We diligently tried to answer the question, but the results of our research raised a lot more questions.  We spent several years researching these issues which in turn only raised more questions.


    Our biggest problem was that no one in our church was prepared to answer the questions.  We talked to many well known ministers that also followed William Branham, but they didn't have any answer either.  A few of the more honest ministers actually admitted that we had stumbled onto some questions that they couldn't answer in a way that reflected positively on William Branham.  So we kept searching for answers.
    Our biggest problem was that '''no one in our church''' was prepared to sincerely consider our questions and try to answer them.  We talked to many well known ministers that also followed William Branham, but they didn't have any answers either.  A few of the more honest ministers actually admitted that we had stumbled onto some questions that they couldn't answer (at least in a way that reflected positively on William Branham).  So we kept searching for answers.


    The following is a master list of all of the issues and problems that have been raised by us and others in respect to William Branham and his message.  If you are aware of any errors/problems/concerns that are not on this list, please let us know [[Contact information|by email]] or by [https://www.facebook.com/BelieveTheSign a message to us on our Facebook page].
    The following is a '''master list of all of the issues and problems that have been raised by us and others in respect to William Branham and his message'''.  If you are aware of any errors/problems/concerns that are not on this list, please let us know [[Contact information|by email]] or by [https://www.facebook.com/BelieveTheSign a message to us on our Facebook page].


    The purpose of this list is to provide a short concise summary of all known issues that can be used as a quick reference guide when discussing these concerns.  Our aim is to provide a detailed explanation for each problem, and the research we have uncovered, when you click on them.  To the extent that the specific problem does not link to anything, it simply means we have not had the time to research the issue as yet.  
    The purpose of this list is to provide a short concise summary of all known issues that can be used as a quick reference guide when discussing these concerns.  Our aim is to provide a detailed explanation for each problem, and the research we have uncovered, when you click on them.  To the extent that the specific problem does not link to anything, it simply means we have not had the time to research the issue as yet.  
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    =Step One - Take a deep breath=
    =Step One - Take a deep breath=


    If you are a message believer, the lists below are going to raise a lot of questions.  But just take your time.  Think about the questions that we are asking and the facts that we are presenting.
    If you are a message believer, the list below is frightening.  You may get angry.  Some have become physically ill.  They are going to raise a lot of questions.  '''But please just take your time.''' Think about the questions that we are asking and the facts that we are presenting (click on the highlighted text to go to the specific research on an issue).


    We are not expecting you to believe anything just because we are saying it.  But what we have done is to provide all of the quotes and references necessary to back up all of our research and observations.  Study these things out for yourself.  If you can find any errors in our research, we will change the information on our website - [[Contact information|just let us know about it]].
    We are not expecting you to believe anything just because we are saying it.  But '''what we have done is to provide all of the facts, quotes and references necessary to back up all of our research and observations'''.  Study these things out for yourself.  If you can find any errors in our research, we will change the information on our website - [[Contact information|please, just let us know about it]].


    To the extent anyone in the message has sought to provide us with an explanation for, or solution to, a specific problem or concern that we have raised, we have listed these in the discussion of the issue.  There have not been a lot of explanations to date that have been sent to us, and most of them are easily identified as being the product of [[Cognitive Dissonance]] (if you don't know what that is, please click on the link).
    To the extent anyone in the message has sought to provide us with an explanation for, or specific solution to, a problem or concern that we have raised, we have listed these in the discussion of the issue.  There have not been a lot of explanations to date that have been sent to us, and most of them are easily identified as being the product of [[Cognitive Dissonance]] (if you don't know what that is, please click on the link).


    Finally, don't be afraid.  The opposite of love is [[If you need help#If you are afraid|not hate, but fear]].  If you have doubts, they need to be resolved, and the only way to do that is to find out the truth.  We wished that we had known these things years ago.  And we are presenting them here so that you don't have to spend the years researching these issues that we did.
    Finally, don't be afraid.  The opposite of love is [[If you need help#If you are afraid|not hate, but fear]].  If you have doubts, they need to be resolved, and the only way to do that is to find out the truth.  We wished that we had known these things years ago.  And we are presenting them here so that you don't have to spend the years researching these issues that we did.
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    *[[Matthew 17:11]]
    *[[Matthew 17:11]]
    *[[The Fulfillment of Malachi 4:5]]
    *[[The Fulfillment of Malachi 4:5]]
    *[[Q&A on the Godhead#Did God leave Jesus Christ on the cross?|Did God leave Jesus Christ when He was on the cross?]]
    *[[Q&A on the Godhead#What is the meaning of "begotten"?|What is the meaning of "begotten"?]]
    *WMB's view of what [[Three Persons]] means in the context of the doctrine of the Trinity.
    *WMB's view of what [[Three Persons]] means in the context of the doctrine of the Trinity.
    *Why did William Branham misrepresent [[The Trinity|the Church's historical view of the Trinity]]?
    *[[Enoch and Noah#The Seventh from Adam|Enoch being the seventh from Adam]] is proof of the Serpent Seed doctrine
    *[[Enoch and Noah#The Seventh from Adam|Enoch being the seventh from Adam]] is proof of the Serpent Seed doctrine
    *[[Michael the Archangel]]
    *[[Michael the Archangel]]
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    *[[Christians that were required to believe Satanic doctrine]]
    *[[Christians that were required to believe Satanic doctrine]]
    *[[Tithing]]
    *[[Tithing]]
    *Why did William Branham teach the Godhead according to [[The Godhead#The Tabernacle of the Body|Emmanuel Swedenborg]]
    *Can't use tithes to build a church
    *Can't use tithes to build a church
    *God's three Bibles
    *God's three Bibles

    Revision as of 19:56, 27 November 2013

    A number of years ago, we received a sincere question in an email regarding the message of William Branham. We diligently tried to answer the question, but the results of our research raised a lot more questions. We spent several years researching these issues which in turn only raised more questions.

    Our biggest problem was that no one in our church was prepared to sincerely consider our questions and try to answer them. We talked to many well known ministers that also followed William Branham, but they didn't have any answers either. A few of the more honest ministers actually admitted that we had stumbled onto some questions that they couldn't answer (at least in a way that reflected positively on William Branham). So we kept searching for answers.

    The following is a master list of all of the issues and problems that have been raised by us and others in respect to William Branham and his message. If you are aware of any errors/problems/concerns that are not on this list, please let us know by email or by a message to us on our Facebook page.

    The purpose of this list is to provide a short concise summary of all known issues that can be used as a quick reference guide when discussing these concerns. Our aim is to provide a detailed explanation for each problem, and the research we have uncovered, when you click on them. To the extent that the specific problem does not link to anything, it simply means we have not had the time to research the issue as yet.

    Step One - Take a deep breath

    If you are a message believer, the list below is frightening. You may get angry. Some have become physically ill. They are going to raise a lot of questions. But please just take your time. Think about the questions that we are asking and the facts that we are presenting (click on the highlighted text to go to the specific research on an issue).

    We are not expecting you to believe anything just because we are saying it. But what we have done is to provide all of the facts, quotes and references necessary to back up all of our research and observations. Study these things out for yourself. If you can find any errors in our research, we will change the information on our website - please, just let us know about it.

    To the extent anyone in the message has sought to provide us with an explanation for, or specific solution to, a problem or concern that we have raised, we have listed these in the discussion of the issue. There have not been a lot of explanations to date that have been sent to us, and most of them are easily identified as being the product of Cognitive Dissonance (if you don't know what that is, please click on the link).

    Finally, don't be afraid. The opposite of love is not hate, but fear. If you have doubts, they need to be resolved, and the only way to do that is to find out the truth. We wished that we had known these things years ago. And we are presenting them here so that you don't have to spend the years researching these issues that we did.

    Problems with Prophecies

    General Credibility Issues

    Doctrinal/Biblical Issues

    Other Issues Relating to William Branham's Message

    • Kenneth Hagin's Prophecy
    • The sun revolves around the earth
    • Enoch built the Great Pyramid
    • The Earth has four corners
    • Women have one less rib than men

    Doctrinal/Biblical Issues Taught by Message Churches

    These doctrines were not specifically taught by William Branham (or at least we have not found quotes yet) but are widely held by Message ministers/believers and are taught in message churches.

    • The use of red herring arguments when Failed Prophecies are pointed out (see video)
    • The doctrine of progressive revelation
    • Acts 3:21
    • Only ministers can handle the Word.
    • Your Pastor will take you through.
    • The Message is our Absolute. In other words - William Branham said it, I believe it, that settles it.
    • The Pastor is our Absolute or Your Pastor in his Office is always right.
    • Diminishing the Life and Ministry of Jesus Christ of two thousand years ago, as a result of Promoting the Jesus Christ of Today.
    • The focus on the message, removes the focus from the bible.
    • Rapturing Faith in on the Tapes.
    • Don't question. Don't argue. Don't Debate. Don't Discuss. Just give them a message book.
    • If they're Seed...
    • The church is the wife, the husband is the pastor
    • The KJV is the only inspired translation of the Bible.
    • "programs" are of the devil, so no-one does anything to help others through the church.
    • Missions are for people overseas, not the homeless down the street.
    • It's OK to preach against other churches who don't have the mighty revelation.
    • Deacons are glorified ushers and no longer redistribute wealth to the poor.
    • There's no higher order to reveal the Word than a prophet. The following is a quote of Luke Gibson - that is an elementary teaching in this message and a close look at the scriptures will declare God always reveals His Word by prophets (Amos 3:7).
    • Education is of the devil... but I know more than other Christians.
    • Everyone outside the message is foolish virgin

    Message believers don't believe these WMB teachings

    There are a few things that William Braham taught that followers of William Branham simply do not believe in any practical sense.


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