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You're out of the message... now what?<ref>This page is based on an article by Allison Grovel ...least the vindicated interpretation of the Bible to prepare the Church for the return of Jesus Christ?

{{Template:The Message}} ...ch don't talk to each other. There is also the "Seven Thunders" movement, the "Bride Coming" group, and those that simply follow charismatic or dominatin

:::''"...and some of you old-timers remember we were renting the Redmond Hall in 1933 when I gave these prophesies". ...f disagreeing with their leader or voicing an opinion which disagrees with the majority.

{{7 Church Ages}} ...lems with William Branham's teaching on the [[Seven Churches In Asia|Seven Church Ages which you can read about by clicking here.]]

:''Jesus Christ is the Word for our day. God always uses man to bring His Word. That's a scriptura Is this correct? Is that what the message of William Branham is? - the word for our day?

...eachings of Scripture, for the Bible contains an abundance of evidence for the deity of Christ.<ref>L. Berkhof, Systematic Theology (Grand Rapids, MI: Wm. Within the message, the deity of Christ is also rejected by the followers of [[Vaylism|Lee Vayle]].

'''Clarence Larkin''' (1850–1924) is important as the source of many of William Branham's basic premillennial dispensationalist t ...l). In each case, he states that he does not agree with Larkin. Here are the ONLY three references to Larkin that William Branham makes in all of his se

...ates into the followers of William Branham teaching that that the gifts of the Holy Spirit had been done away with because "that which is perfect has come =What the Bible teaches=

! Church Age Book statement of the vision ...oice admonished, "WATCH RUSSIA, WATCH RUSSIA. Keep your eye on the King of the North."

...y lasts as long as your faith lasts. He also believed that you could have the Holy Spirit and go to hell. =What the Bible teaches=

...of the website. This should assist in navigating to a specific section of the website. |'''[[The Pillar of Fire|The Photograph]]'''

{{7 Church Ages}} ...the Province of Manisa, Turkey. It is located 67 km/42 miles inland from the Aegean Sea and is known today for its olive, olive oil, and tobacco product

William Branham taught that Jesus Christ died a sinner. But is that what the Bible teaches? =What the Bible teaches=

...rite down in an old book. In the last vision, there was an explosion, and the United States was turned into ashes from coast to coast. He predicted this =The Prophecy=

Can you tell whether someone has the Holy Ghost? William Branham clearly was conflicted here because he couldn' ...nd say "This man has the Holy Ghost because he did this, or this woman has the Holy Ghost because she did that."

In a sermon in 1964, William Branham sought to tie in a lunar eclipse with the Pope's visit to Jerusalem: ...ham, An Exposition Of The Seven Church Ages - Chapter Nine - The Laodicean Church Age, para. 357-1</ref>

...b-sect within the "[[The Message|message]]". We refer to this sub-sect as the Jackson camp or group. ...although they would never say that publicly because the average person in the movement does not realize how far they have diverged from William Branham's

What is the status of message preachers from a scriptural perspective? James, the brother of Jesus, tells us:

[[Image:Off The Shelf square 1024x1024.jpg|thumb|right|250px]] ...at it means to be a true follower of Jesus in the context of scripture and the message of William Branham.

These were Jesus' last words about the Holy Spirit: ...therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001

'''''Supernatural: The Life of William Branham''''' is a '''fictionalized biography''' of William ...mons of William Branham with absolutely no critical thought on the part of the author.

...of the book "A Man Sent From God", written by [[Gordon Lindsay]], includes the following testimony of a prophecy about William Branham: ...ng out Brother Branham asked him to spell his name. When he had done this the man held a piece of yellow paper in his hand and said, "That's it, mother."

William Branham tells the story several times of the first time he went to pick up his girlfriend Hope Brumbach. However, there ...e out after he blew the horn or whether it was Hope's mother that answered the door.

...ple who did not believe his message with people that rejected the truth in the Bible. Is this the correct comparison?

...Tabernacle Inc. is a [[The Message|message]] church in Phoenix, Arizona. The pastor of Phoenix Tabernacle is Bernabé (Bernie) G. García. ...s part of the [[The Returned Ministry Sect|Returned Ministry]] sub-cult of the message.

...ate 1940's, his healing ministry skyrocketed him from a pastor in a small church outside Louisville, Kentucky to an international evangelist. However, as h ...anham."''</ref>. He was born in rural Kentucky, raised in Indiana, and in the 1940’s his healing ministry skyrocketed him from a rural pastor to an int

...' was published in 1853 by Alexander Hislop (1807–65), a Presbyterian Free Church of Scotland theologian. ...f history. He admitted to having used it in his research. This is unlike the works of Clarence Larkin, which he admitted to having read but only in pass

William Branham taught the doctrine of "annihilationism" or "conditional immortality". He believed th ...om their writings that the following did not believe in the immortality of the soul:

.... '''Click on the scripture reference''' to go to the detailed article on the passage. #[[The Fulfillment of Malachi 4:5|Malachi 4:5]]

|'''[[The Message]]''' <br> Learn more about the Message. '''[[Is the Message a Cult?]]''' <br> It's a tough question, if you are in the message.

Did William Branham have a good understanding of church history? ==What William Branham got wrong about the First Council of Nicaea==

...The 52nd message, written on October 4, 1941, mentions William Branham in the 18th paragraph, as transcribed below: ...f the Spirit will come over them to lead the way. Let them be at work, for the Lord has heard their prayers.''<ref>www.elijahmessage.net/files/message52.h

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...of the church in the last days and, specifically, that William Branham was the one by whom restoration came: ...en, and what the hopping locust left, the destroying locust has eaten.<ref>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2001

...here were seven other major parts to the 1933 vision that were "Thus Saith The Lord". ==1960 retelling of the 1933 prophecy==

...y, Depot Road, Longdenville, Trinidad & Tobago. As with most ministers in the message, Vin Dayal has had no formal theological training which is a badge For those not familiar with Third Exodus Assembly, the church would be [[Is the Message a Cult?|considered a cult]] by virtually all Protestant, Roman Cath

! Church Age Book statement of the vision ...lini would invade Ethiopia and that nation would “fall at his steps.” But the vision also said that Mussolini would come to a horrible end with his own p

=The Challenge= In the sermon, The Revelation of Jesus Christ (Jeffersonville, December 4, 1960), William Bran

...ment was ready; oh, while He was making ready to pour out the plagues upon the earth now. “Come up hither and I’ll show you what’s fixing to take pl ...en? “What then? What then? When that great book is opened, what then? When the one’s that reject this message tonight, is going to be asked to give a re

...ted the message that the messenger brought (which included the doctrine of the Trinity), they were lost. 1) William Branham taught that each church age had its own messenger to that age.

...udenberg-LouisJulius 05.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Male and female swimsuits in the United States, circa 1916.]] ...ion I saw the terrible perversion and moral plight of the whole world.'' (Church Age Book, Chapter 9, by William Branham)

...e told his followers not to interpret what he said but to simply "say what the tapes say". ...ing. There is proof beyond any doubt that [[Condensed List of Issues with the Message#Did William Branham preach what Paul preached?|many things that he

...ouisville, Kentucky on September 13, 1879 and died on November 20, 1952 at the age of seventy-three. '''William Branham admitted that he attended William Sowders' School of the Prophets in Louisville.''' It is not surprising that many of William Branh

...to me in 1931, and there I had written in my book, "In the last days, warn the people not to eat eggs or live in a valley.""''''']] ...rophecy of William Branham from 1933, he said '''''“In the last days, warn the people not to eat eggs or live in a valley”'''''.

...and my brother was going along, and we seen a--an old turtle. And that was the funniest looking thing I ever seen, old terrapin. Don't know whether you ha ...they pull right back in their shell. "I belong to the Baptist. I belong to the Methodist."

...his subjects. Some message churches now teach that this also applies to a church's pastor. ...rom a fairly innocuous phrase in the Old Testament. Referring to Abraham, the Bible states that when he died "he was gathered to his people.”

...Branham Tabernacle but that turned out to be false - see [[The Mystery of the Empty Cornerstone]] '''So where is the list today?'''

...liam Branham. Prior to the 20th century, the Christian church referred to the Oneness doctrine as Sabellianism, Patripassianism, Modalism or modalistic m =Was the early church Oneness in its theology?=

...r arms around your brothers, and [[The Importance of a Right Spirit|having the right spirit rather than wrong doctrine]]. ...f the church, yelling that denominations are of the devil, claiming we are the elect, be not unequally yoked, and on it goes.

...n's sister, Florence, was diagnosed with cancer. Although she was only 39, the cancer had advanced to a stage where her doctors couldn't stop it. ...prophecy that we are aware of that can be proved to have been made before the fact.

In the King James Version of the Bible, 1 John 5:7-8 states: ::'''''[in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.  And there are three that bear witnes

...") doctrines taught by William Branham. Click on the description name for the full article. ...Sinai to the Arizona desert sometime in 1964. This is evidence of some of the bizarre beliefs that he held.

I was raised in the message from birth and, under that protective wing of its embrace or rather ...as though I sat at their dinner table. I visited his home town and saw all the places he told us about.

...sufficiency of scripture is one of the primary reasons for concluding that the message of William Branham is unnecessary for Christians today. The doctrine of the sufficiency of scripture can be defined as follows:

...rs. But unfortunately, the math just doesn't work. Wouldn't you think if the man was a prophet, he would get it right? ==What the Bible teaches==

...ft; padding:1px; margin:1px;"><font color='#800000' size='+1'>'''Errors in the New Testament? (Part 1)'''</font> </div> ...Testament that we have today the same as the New Testament that the early church had?

...ound on the internet at [http://www.thefreeword.com www.thefreeword.com]. The following article is adapted from Rev. Mamalis' biography on that website. ...time that the brothers of the church he attended prophesied over him that the Lord had a definite work for him to do.

...had been a soldier with the U.S. army during WWII, and had seen action on the front lines in Germany. While he had made if back alive, he suffered from ...rds, and Gene was called to the front during the service "Be Not Afraid". The audio recording of this service records how William Branham identified both

=Offices in the church= In 1 Corinthians 12:28, Paul broadens the offices and overlaps them with various gifts:

=The Pillar of Fire with Joseph Branham= ...nset Mountain in Arizona on May 19, 1965. however, it is more likely that the picture was taken at [[Rattlesnake Mesa]].

...none; margin:0; padding:.1em; color:#000;"> [[BelieveTheSign:About|Believe The Sign?]]</div> ...m; font-size:150%;">The encyclopedia of the [[William Branham|life]] and [[The Message|message]] of William Branham.</div>

...Louisiana, co-founder of the "Voice of Healing" magazine, and director of the Full Gospel Business Men's Fellowship International. After hearing reports ...ay's book "William Branham - A Man Sent From God", entitled "Sketches from the Branham Meetings" was written by Jack Moore. A few excerpts from this chap

...ted he them.<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 200 ...ly home. But by his spirit he contacts God.<ref>William Branham, 53-0509 - The Pillar Of Fire, para. 11</ref>

...Capernaum is in the bottom of the sea.'''<ref>William Branham, 65-0429E - The Choosing Of A Bride, para. 230</ref> ...onstantly conned all the time, do it just the same. You walk over It as if the Word of God wasn’t nothing.”

:''What are you offering as an alternative to the message that he has brought? This is really another way of asking whether the Church, the Bride of Jesus Christ, needs a special message from God.

...andle not...<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 200 ...ot, taste not, handle not, smell not. That don’t have one thing to do with the Holy Ghost.

...at this earthquake was the fulfillment of a prophecy made just days before the quake occurred. ==Problems with the Prophecy==

...bends its intended meaning. Click on the picture or description name for the full article. ...d the wise virgin while Noah represented the foolish virgin. Is this what the Bible actually teaches?

...t; padding:1px; margin:1px;"><font color='#800000' size='+1'>'''Honesty in the Ministry?'''.</font> </div> ...ip (one new Church in Canada and a second in the United States). Prior to the split, Ed Byskal told his congregation that if 49% of them voted for him to

==A Comparison of the 1960 Sermon and the Church Age Book== ..."An Exposition of the Seven Church Ages" (hereinafter referred to as the "Church Age Book").

The following is a sermon on Christian cults by Jacob Prasch which we strongly =Excerpts from the sermon=

...grave.jpg|thumb|220px|right|The home where Georgia Carter was healed, and the grave marking her passing in 1998.]] The following letter appears on pages 200-201 of the book "[[A Man Sent from God, by Gordon Lindsay|William Branham, A Man Sent

This question follows on from your response to Question 5 and specifically to the interpretation of Revelation 10:7. ...nishes the mystery of the written Book.”'' (62-1230E - Is This The Sign Of The End, Sir? - Para. 241-242)

...ist, William Branham taught (he actually said that this came directly from the Bible) that: #The foetus had not moved for 6 months.

...etical claims, including that he was the ‘angel messenger to the Laodicean Church Age’ (Rev 3:14). ...ovided a timeframe which would set the scene for the apocalyptic events of the end time.

...n that God gave specific vindication that confirmed that his revelation on the subject was true. ...that William Branham referred to was an amber cloud moving up and down on the mountain as school children watched. However, there is no reporting of thi

...e picture at the right to enlarge it). This is dated June 22, 1934 and is the earliest recorded official document that we have that indicated his birthda ...ranham would have no reason to lie as to the date (click on the picture at the right to enlarge it).

...al Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), 2 Co 11:4.</ref> Paul also tells the Galatian church:

! Church Age Book statement of the vision ...ictator over Germany, and that he would draw the world into war. It showed the Siegfried line and how our troops would have a terrible time to overcome it

=The prophecies of 1933= ...also about the visions. But now we will talk about some inconsistencies in the visions that make history seem forged.

....S.R. established diplomatic ties shortly after, on November 16, 1933. In the fourth vision, William Branham said he witnessed Fascism and Nazism being s ...''failed.'''|[[Image:Reichstag flag.jpg|right|thumb|400px|U.S.S.R. flag on the German Parliament (Reichstag) in Berlin.]]

= Question 4 - The Roosevelt prophecy= Another issue regarding William Branham's prophetic ministry relates to the Roosevelt prophecy.

...ne thing it cannot be is moderately important.''''<ref>C. S. Lewis, God in the Dock, ed. Walter Hooper (HarperOne, 1994), 102.</ref> ...enagers who weren't welcoming to a new kid who had started to attend their church.

...m Branham borrowed a number of doctrines from the Jehovah's Witnesses (aka the Watchtower Society). These include: *[[Michael the Archangel]] is Jesus Christ

...meeting of Nikita Khrushchev and Dwuight Eisenhower was the fulfillment of the prophecy contained in Daniel chapter 2. It wasn't. ...n clay. Eisenhower means "iron hewer": the person who works with iron, not the iron itself.<ref>[https://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Kruschev Surname Databa

...mind. But if his revelation was by vision, how could it change? How does the passage read in context? ==What the Bible says==

{{Template:The Message}} ...uit. Ern Baxter said, ''"Branham as a teacher was outside of his calling. The fruits of his teaching ministry are not good."''

...n the manuscript of one of his speeches which was underlined in red and in the margin he had written '''“Weak point. Speak louder.”''' ...olic church, he refuses to speak up about the sins within the ministers of the message.

...are to be judged (1 Cor 2:15, 1 Cor 14:29) and those in leadership in the church are held to a high standard (Titus 1:6-8, 1 Tim. 3:2-9). :'''''“If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.”''''' ― Mark Twain

...ed by an angel in a dream to leave Bethlehem and go to Egypt with Mary and the young child Jesus, and escaped Herod's slaughter. King Herod died in 4 BC, which places the birth of Jesus before that time - possibly in 6 BC.

*The angel sent to the Church in Laodicea in Revelation 3:14; *Responsible for the opening of the seven seals of Revelation 6; and,

[[File:Pentagram of Venus.jpg|250px|thumb|right|The Pentagram of Venus]] ...agram clearly displayed on the front of the Branham Tabernacle? What does the Pentagram mean?

...a witness to the healing power of Jesus Christ, and wrote the book "Christ the Healer" which is still in print today. ...from the Assemblies of God and started a Christian and Missionary Alliance church in Dallas. He was also beaten by vigilantes in Texas for crossing racial b

William Branham said this about his "revelation" of the second seal: ...ust took place that just helped me so much.<ref>William Branham, 63-0319 - The Second Seal, para. 11-12</ref>

What is a requirement of someone that is a pastor or minister in a church? ...h in a church (for example, as the pastor) if his wife was not a virgin at the time that he married her.

=Trying to put out the light?= ...ight being his message but we have since realized he and his following are the little birds!!!

...on to ask: '''What's wrong with wearing dresses, not drinking, and all of the other rules that message followers live by?''' There are a number of reasons why we '''must''' counsel people to leave the message and simply follow Christ.

...t to any organization, church or man as having special status or a lock on the truth. ...for a statement of the basic truths that we hold to we would refer you to the [http://www.lausanne.org/en/documents/lausanne-covenant.html Lausanne Coven

*'''[[Jesus]] was a witness''' of God the Father, <br> *The disciples were a witness of the testimony of Jesus, and <br>

[[Image:Seven Thunders church.png|thumb|right|250px]] ...the "Inspiration"'''). He was the pastor of the Local Christian Assembly Church on 70th Avenue in Forest Hills, New York (Queens) for over 45 years.