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    whether an asserted event is to be accepted as historical finally has to be a matter of the evidence.
    Gary R. Habermas, Antony G. N. Flew, and Terry L. Miethe, Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? The Resurrection Debate (Eugene, OR: Wipf & Stock Publishers, 2003), 127.


    ==Jesus died by crucifixion==
    ==Jesus died by crucifixion==


    The crucifixion of Jesus should be considered historical fact based on the ''criterion of embarrassment''.  If Jesus’ actions, sayings or crucifiexion would have embarrassed or caused difficulty for the early church, then why include these if you’re inventing them? Why depect a shamed, humiliated, crucified Messiah — unless it actually happened?  The discrepancy between the shameful death of a Jewish state criminal and the confession that depicts this executed man as the preexistent divine figure who becomes man and humbles himself to a slave’s death is without comparison in the ancient world.<ref>Paul Copan, “True for You but Not for Me” (Minneapolis, MN: Bethany House, 2009), 159–160</ref>  
    The crucifixion of Jesus should be considered historical fact based on the ''criterion of embarrassment''.  If Jesus’ actions, sayings or crucifiexion would have embarrassed or caused difficulty for the early church, then why include these if you’re inventing them? Why depict a shamed, humiliated, crucified Messiah — unless it actually happened?  The discrepancy between the shameful death of a Jewish state criminal and the confession that depicts this executed man as the preexistent divine figure who becomes man and humbles himself to a slave’s death is without comparison in the ancient world.<ref>Paul Copan, “True for You but Not for Me” (Minneapolis, MN: Bethany House, 2009), 159–160</ref> Christians would not have invented the painful death of their leader.
    Christians would not have invented the painful death of their leader.


    The crucifixion of Jesus should be considered historical fact based on the ''criterion of multiple attestation'' - confirmation by more than one source - because of the agreement of all sources on the fact that Jesus died by Roman execution on a cross.  Death by crucifixion also meets the ''criterion of rejection'' - it is not disputed by any ancient sources.  It is also firmly established that there is non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus – referring to the mentions by Josephus and Tacitus.
    The crucifixion of Jesus should be considered historical fact based on the ''criterion of multiple attestation'' - confirmation by more than one source - because of the agreement of all sources on the fact that Jesus died by Roman execution on a cross.  Death by crucifixion also meets the ''criterion of rejection'' - it is not disputed by any ancient sources.  It is also firmly established that there is non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus – referring to the mentions by Josephus and Tacitus.
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    ==Appearances of Jesus post-crucifixion were documented==
    ==Appearances of Jesus post-crucifixion were documented==


    Appearances of Jesus were documented - Gospels, Paul - some died for this belief - Gert Ludeman
    ==Sceptics were convinced it took place==
    Paul and James
    ==There is Evidence of an Empty Tomb==
    Knew where the tomb was - Joseph of Arimethea. Women’s testimony worthless.






    * Appearances of Jesus were documented - Gospels, Paul - some died for this belief - Gert Ludeman
    (1) Jesus died due to the rigors of crucifixion and (2) was buried. (3) Jesus’ death caused the disciples to despair and lose hope. (4) Although not as frequently recognized, many scholars hold that Jesus was buried in a tomb that was discovered to be empty just a few days later.
    * Sceptics converted - Paul and James
    Critical scholars even agree that (5) at this time the disciples had real experiences that they believed were literal appearances of the risen Jesus. Because of these experiences, (6) the disciples were transformed from doubters who were afraid to identify themselves with Jesus to bold proclaimers of his death and Resurrection, even being willing to die for this belief. (7) This message was central in the early church preaching and (8) was especially proclaimed in Jerusalem, where Jesus had died shortly before.
    * Empty tomb - Knew where the tomb was - Joseph of Arimethea. Women’s testimony worthless.  
    As a result of this message, (9) the church was born and grew, (10) with Sunday as the primary day of worship. (11) James, the brother of Jesus and a skeptic, was converted to the faith when he also believed he saw the resurrected Jesus. (12) A few years later Paul the persecutor of Christians was also converted by an experience that he, similarly, believed to be an appearance of the risen Jesus.




    Gary R. Habermas, “Affirmative Statement,” in Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? The Resurrection Debate (Eugene, OR: Wipf & Stock Publishers, 2003), 19–20.


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    Some people who leave the message (or another Christian cult) move on to reject any concept of God. They are opposed to the very concept of Christianity as a result of their prior bad experiences and become atheists or agnostics. This is quite understandable given the deception, lies and spiritual abuse they experienced while in the message.

    The purpose of this series of articles is to present a reasoned response to some of the questions relating to Christianity and God that former ex-message followers have presented to us. We certainly understand their pain and how this has led them to doubt the existence of God and the good news that Jesus Christ brought to the world.

    Click on the link below to go to the specific topic. You are currently in the article that is in bold.

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    whether an asserted event is to be accepted as historical finally has to be a matter of the evidence.

    Gary R. Habermas, Antony G. N. Flew, and Terry L. Miethe, Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? The Resurrection Debate (Eugene, OR: Wipf & Stock Publishers, 2003), 127.

    Jesus died by crucifixion

    The crucifixion of Jesus should be considered historical fact based on the criterion of embarrassment. If Jesus’ actions, sayings or crucifiexion would have embarrassed or caused difficulty for the early church, then why include these if you’re inventing them? Why depict a shamed, humiliated, crucified Messiah — unless it actually happened? The discrepancy between the shameful death of a Jewish state criminal and the confession that depicts this executed man as the preexistent divine figure who becomes man and humbles himself to a slave’s death is without comparison in the ancient world.[1] Christians would not have invented the painful death of their leader.

    The crucifixion of Jesus should be considered historical fact based on the criterion of multiple attestation - confirmation by more than one source - because of the agreement of all sources on the fact that Jesus died by Roman execution on a cross. Death by crucifixion also meets the criterion of rejection - it is not disputed by any ancient sources. It is also firmly established that there is non-Christian confirmation of the crucifixion of Jesus – referring to the mentions by Josephus and Tacitus.

    Most scholars, both Christian and non-Christian, consider the crucifixion indisputable.

    As a result, we can conclude that Jesus died by crucifixion.

    Appearances of Jesus post-crucifixion were documented

    Appearances of Jesus were documented - Gospels, Paul - some died for this belief - Gert Ludeman


    Sceptics were convinced it took place

    Paul and James

    There is Evidence of an Empty Tomb

    Knew where the tomb was - Joseph of Arimethea. Women’s testimony worthless.


    (1) Jesus died due to the rigors of crucifixion and (2) was buried. (3) Jesus’ death caused the disciples to despair and lose hope. (4) Although not as frequently recognized, many scholars hold that Jesus was buried in a tomb that was discovered to be empty just a few days later. Critical scholars even agree that (5) at this time the disciples had real experiences that they believed were literal appearances of the risen Jesus. Because of these experiences, (6) the disciples were transformed from doubters who were afraid to identify themselves with Jesus to bold proclaimers of his death and Resurrection, even being willing to die for this belief. (7) This message was central in the early church preaching and (8) was especially proclaimed in Jerusalem, where Jesus had died shortly before. As a result of this message, (9) the church was born and grew, (10) with Sunday as the primary day of worship. (11) James, the brother of Jesus and a skeptic, was converted to the faith when he also believed he saw the resurrected Jesus. (12) A few years later Paul the persecutor of Christians was also converted by an experience that he, similarly, believed to be an appearance of the risen Jesus.


    Gary R. Habermas, “Affirmative Statement,” in Did Jesus Rise from the Dead? The Resurrection Debate (Eugene, OR: Wipf & Stock Publishers, 2003), 19–20.


    Footnotes

    1. Paul Copan, “True for You but Not for Me” (Minneapolis, MN: Bethany House, 2009), 159–160


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