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William Branham told about a series of eight prophetic visions he experienced in June 1933. In the first vision, Franklin D. Roosevelt picks on the Germans and leads the world into the Second World War. William Branham stopped telling this part of the prophecy in 1961, but still maintained that there were seven major parts to the 1933 vision that were "Thus Saith The Lord".

Franklin D. Roosevelt in 1933

1960 retelling of the 1933 prophecy

I'd like to read you a prophecy that was given... This one first. I speak this in the Name of the Lord. The president which now is, President Franklin D. Roosevelt. (Now remember, this is twenty-eight years ago.) will cause the whole world to go to war. (Now, look what happened now.) In...President Franklin D. Roosevelt took America to England's tea party. That's right. Germany never picked on us; we picked on them, throwed the whole world into a war, to cause a world war. (Condemnation by Representation, November 13, 1960)

Problems with the prophecy

In the Laodicean Church Age book, William Branham says, “Now let me say this. Can anyone prove any of those visions wrong? Were they not all fulfilled?” Almost 70 years after 1933, we now have the benefit of hindsight in our ability to confirm the accuracy of these prophecies.

Japan's attack on Pearl Harbour

The USA did not lead the world into WWII, as William Branham prophecied. In fact, the United States stayed out of the conflict until 1941 when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. It is not clear how William Branham omitted this fact, as he preached about Pearl Harbour a number of times, condemning the soldiers for their revelry.

William Branham didn't like FDR

On December 4, 1960 William Branham said, "There it is on paper as the Holy Spirit said...America with this President Roosevelt will be the rascal of all of them." And that's right; he was." William Branham's earlier statements about FDR disclose that he thought his 4 term leadership was a "dictatorship" (May 1954), and he condemned him for bringing in Catholic holidays (December 1954).

Changes in the prophecy over time

The prophecy was written down, so each retelling of it should have been consistent. However, William Branham never mentions Roosevelt in connection with the 1933 prophecies until September 1958. At first, FDR would run for four terms (Thus Saith The Lord). By 1960, William Branham says the vision showed FDR picking on the Germans and starting WWII. Then, in December 1960 this changes so that FDR only "helped" the world go to war (with "Thus Saith The Lord"). In 1961 this changes back to the original version so that FDR runs for four terms, and then the prophecy disappears. This is the only part in the series of 1933 visions that does not make it into the summary of the 1933 visions in the Church Ages Book.

A summary of the prophecies over time include:

1958: FDR would run for four terms. ^[1]
1960: In the Name of the Lord, FDR would pick on the Germans and cause the whole world to go to war. ^[2]
1960: FDR would cause WWII. ^[3]
1960: FDR would lead the world to war. ^[4]
1960: Predicted FDR would lead the world to war. ^[5]
1960: FDR helped cause the world to go to war. ^[6]
1961: Written in a book that FDR would be president when the world went to war. ^[7]
1961: FDR would help lead the world into war with Germany. ^[8]
1961: Written on paper, FDR would help cause the world to go to war, "Thus Saith The Lord." ^[9]
1961: FDR would be President in four terms, and the world would go to war. ^[10]

References

↑ It also said what would take place, and about Roosevelt and them things, how he would run and make that fourth term. Perfectly, just exactly the way it come to pass... that's THUS SAITH THE LORD." (September 27, 1958, Jeffersonville, Indiana)
↑ I'd like to read you a prophecy that was given...This one first. I speak this in the Name of the Lord. The president which now is, President Franklin D. Roosevelt... (Now remember, this is twenty-eight years ago.) will cause the whole world to go to war... Now, look what happened now. In... President Franklin D. Roosevelt took America to England's tea party. That's right. Germany never picked on us; we picked on them, throwed the whole world into a war, to cause a world war. (Condemnation by Representation, November 13, 1960)
↑ Said, "We now have a president (Dwi... Mr. Roosevelt), and this Mr. Roosevelt will cause the world to go into a world war through his--in his time of his administration, his--his--as president," (Conference, November 25, 1960)
↑ How many remembers that vision here in the church? Sure. Said that how that even Kennedy would be elected in this last election. How that women would be permitted to vote. How that Roosevelt would take the world to war. (The Ephesian Church Age, December 5 1960)
↑ And I seen this President Roosevelt leading the world to a world war: predicted. (The Thyatirean Church Age, December 8, 1960)
↑ But the Lord showed me a vision of the great powerful woman, in '33, 1933, it's on paper. Of how that Roosevelt would cause... He helped cause the world to go to war. (The Laodicean Church Age, December 11, 1960)
↑ I picked up an old book there that the--the Lord had gave me a vision in 1933 when I just first become a minister, going down to the Baptist Tabernacle. And He gave me a vision that morning, and I seen the first one I remember of an international affair. And I seen that President Roosevelt that was in then, and seen that we'd go to a world war. (Why, January 28,1961) and And immediately after that, Mr. Roosevelt--truly in the time of his administration here--the world went to war.(Turning Northward, January 29, 1961)
↑ 1933, one morning going to the Baptist tabernacle, I went into a trance, saw a vision. I saw President Roosevelt was going to help lead the world to a world war, told it that morning. They was going to lock me up for it. And I said, "They'll go to war with Germany." (Jehovah Jireh, March 12,1961)
↑ I seen it, thirty--1931. Seven things happened. I got it right on paper here with me, wrote it in 1931. How that I said, "This President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, he will cause all the world, help do it, send the world to war." Hadn't come to war yet, during times of depression. I said, "Another thing..." And my mother, a square-back Democrat, if she didn't look at me hard when I said that. I said, "I don't care if there's a Republican or if he was a Socialist or whatever he is, this is THUS SAITH THE LORD." (Jezebel Religion, March 19,1961)
↑ ...said, "The President that now is (I copied this off of the old Scripture--old thing yesterday)--that the President that we now have, which was (how many remembers whose it was?) Franklin D. Roosevelt..." I said, "The President we have in now will run even in the fourth term (He's on his first then.)--will run into the fourth term, and we will be taken to a second world war." (The Seventieth Week of Daniel, August 6, 1961)

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[1] It also said what would take place, and about Roosevelt and them things, how he would run and make that fourth term. Perfectly, just exactly the way it come to pass... that's THUS SAITH THE LORD." (September 27, 1958, Jeffersonville, Indiana)

[2] I'd like to read you a prophecy that was given...This one first. I speak this in the Name of the Lord. The president which now is, President Franklin D. Roosevelt... (Now remember, this is twenty-eight years ago.) will cause the whole world to go to war... Now, look what happened now. In... President Franklin D. Roosevelt took America to England's tea party. That's right. Germany never picked on us; we picked on them, throwed the whole world into a war, to cause a world war. (Condemnation by Representation, November 13, 1960)

[3] Said, "We now have a president (Dwi... Mr. Roosevelt), and this Mr. Roosevelt will cause the world to go into a world war through his--in his time of his administration, his--his--as president," (Conference, November 25, 1960)

[4] How many remembers that vision here in the church? Sure. Said that how that even Kennedy would be elected in this last election. How that women would be permitted to vote. How that Roosevelt would take the world to war. (The Ephesian Church Age, December 5 1960)

[5] And I seen this President Roosevelt leading the world to a world war: predicted. (The Thyatirean Church Age, December 8, 1960)

[6] But the Lord showed me a vision of the great powerful woman, in '33, 1933, it's on paper. Of how that Roosevelt would cause... He helped cause the world to go to war. (The Laodicean Church Age, December 11, 1960)

[7] I picked up an old book there that the--the Lord had gave me a vision in 1933 when I just first become a minister, going down to the Baptist Tabernacle. And He gave me a vision that morning, and I seen the first one I remember of an international affair. And I seen that President Roosevelt that was in then, and seen that we'd go to a world war. (Why, January 28,1961) and And immediately after that, Mr. Roosevelt--truly in the time of his administration here--the world went to war.(Turning Northward, January 29, 1961)

[8] 1933, one morning going to the Baptist tabernacle, I went into a trance, saw a vision. I saw President Roosevelt was going to help lead the world to a world war, told it that morning. They was going to lock me up for it. And I said, "They'll go to war with Germany." (Jehovah Jireh, March 12,1961)

[9] I seen it, thirty--1931. Seven things happened. I got it right on paper here with me, wrote it in 1931. How that I said, "This President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, he will cause all the world, help do it, send the world to war." Hadn't come to war yet, during times of depression. I said, "Another thing..." And my mother, a square-back Democrat, if she didn't look at me hard when I said that. I said, "I don't care if there's a Republican or if he was a Socialist or whatever he is, this is THUS SAITH THE LORD." (Jezebel Religion, March 19,1961)

[10] ...said, "The President that now is (I copied this off of the old Scripture--old thing yesterday)--that the President that we now have, which was (how many remembers whose it was?) Franklin D. Roosevelt..." I said, "The President we have in now will run even in the fourth term (He's on his first then.)--will run into the fourth term, and we will be taken to a second world war." (The Seventieth Week of Daniel, August 6, 1961)

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