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Was William Branham's discernment infallible or were there errors
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[[Image:Prayer Card Front and Back.jpg|370px|right|thumb|Front and back of a signed prayer card, asking for all the information he would later 'discern'.]]
This article asks the question: '''Was William Branham's discernment infallible or were there errors?''' 


==If there were errors, what caused them?==
==If there were errors, what caused them?==


''And now, I want that lady here, just to stand right here by the microphone. I know the lady. I--I think her name is Sutton; I'm not mistake... [The sister says, "No. Cobb, now."--Ed.] Oh, Cobb, I'm sorry. I've seen the woman before, so she comes here to the Tabernacle once in a while. And now... But I know nothing of what's wrong with her. But now, the only way that I would have of knowing that, would be some way that God would have telling me. Isn't that right, Mrs... Cobb? All right. Cobb, would be, is your name now? All right. All right, Mrs. Cobb, the only way that I'd know that what was wrong with you, would be God would have to reveal it to me.<ref>PROOF.OF.HIS.RESURRECTION_  JEFF.IN  V-26 N-16  SUNDAY_  55-0410M</ref>
''And now, I want that lady here, just to stand right here by the microphone. I know the lady. '''I--I think her name is Sutton; I'm not mistake... [The sister says, "No. Cobb, now."--Ed.] Oh, Cobb, I'm sorry.''' I've seen the woman before, so she comes here to the Tabernacle once in a while. And now... But I know nothing of what's wrong with her. But now, the only way that I would have of knowing that, would be some way that God would have telling me. Isn't that right, Mrs... Cobb? All right. Cobb, would be, is your name now? All right. All right, Mrs. Cobb, the only way that I'd know that what was wrong with you, would be God would have to reveal it to me.<ref>PROOF.OF.HIS.RESURRECTION_  JEFF.IN  V-26 N-16  SUNDAY_  55-0410M</ref>




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But have you ever stopped to consider how differently a prayer line might seem if you heard the unedited versions?  
But have you ever stopped to consider how differently a prayer line might seem if you heard the unedited versions?  


Here are a few examples.  Can fill in the blanks? (Blank spots on tape, that is)
Here are a few examples.  Can fill in the blanks? (Blank spots on tape, that is):


:''But now, dear friends, here's what it is. The vibrations move just the same as... That's God's Divine gift. Now, if He's going to take that away from me, I'd rather not come out to this pulpit this afternoon. 'Cause when I can't be a help to someone else, I don't want to stay here.<ref>47-1207 EXPERIENCES</ref>
:''Friends, you'll have to keep your head bowed. As I raised my head, at least two dozen cold waves of vibration struck across me [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.].<ref>49-0718 I.WAS.NOT.DISOBEDIENT.TO.THE.HEAVENLY.VISION</ref>
 
 
:''There's got a vibration...?... in his hand. All right. Bow your heads, every one. Now, here's the vibration. This I can tell which way it...?... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed]<ref>47-0412 FAITH.IS.THE.SUBSTANCE</ref>


:''Now, there's a vibration. I want you to look. Can you see my [Blank.spot.on.tape.] like in here [Blank.spot.on.tape.]... this one looks. See, now I put my hand [Blank.spot.on.tape.]<ref>47-1207 EXPERIENCES</ref>
:''Thou art here tonight to heal our sister [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]... Do you believe? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>49-0718 I.WAS.NOT.DISOBEDIENT.TO.THE.HEAVENLY.VISION</ref>
:''Friends, you'll have to keep your head bowed. As I raised my head, at least two dozen cold waves of vibration struck across me [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.].<ref>49-0718 I.WAS.NOT.DISOBEDIENT.TO.THE.HEAVENLY.VISION</ref>


:''...thought I'd tell you something's happening right now that you would know, and that you would know that... Now, that's right, isn't it? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0110 MOSES</ref>
:''...thought I'd tell you something's happening right now that you would know, and that you would know that... Now, that's right, isn't it? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0110 MOSES</ref>
:''Now, you can raise your head, audience. Now, 'fore I raise my head or look, sister... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0810 EXPECTATIONS</ref>




:''How do you do? Are you the patient? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0715 LED.BY.THE.SPIRIT</ref>
:''How do you do? Are you the patient? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0715 LED.BY.THE.SPIRIT</ref>
:''All right, come forward, sister. Let's have your hand, just... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0811 THE.POOL.OF.BETHESDA</ref>
:''All right, bring the lady, and everybody be real reverent now. God bless you sister, have faith now. You're just a little...?... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0818 IT.SHALL.BE.EVEN.AS.IT.WAS.TOLD.ME</ref>




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God bless you, sister. But how do you...?... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0818 IT.SHALL.BE.EVEN.AS.IT.WAS.TOLD.ME</ref>
:''All right, brother. I'm... After speaking, makes me just a little shook up, you know, I get... I guess that's humanly nervous, you know, just it's... It just happens that way, I guess. But, anyhow, I've got to get myself quietened down to the anointing of that Angel of the Lord.
 
 
Yes ma'am. That shows in a vibrations can... trying to cross there...?... Watch when you take your hand off, look at my hand now. Put your hand over here on mine. Now, put this hand here on there and watch it. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0823 TESTIMONY</ref>
 
 
Come forward, sister. Here...?... Look this way. Yes, ma'am. You have many... Been failing lately, haven't you? Oh, I see another thing. You have stomach trouble too, don't you? Yes, ma'am. I see the two of them. You're nervous too, aren't you. Is that right? A palsy like... All right. Do you believe now that Jesus is going to... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0823 TESTIMONY</ref>
 
 
:''Now, watch. You take your hand off and I'll put my hand on...?... Is that right? Now, you put his hand on. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0827E TAKE.THE.ROD.AND.GATHER.THE.PEOPLE</ref>
 
 
All right, brother. I'm... After speaking, makes me just a little shook up, you know, I get... I guess that's humanly nervous, you know, just it's... It just happens that way, I guess. But, anyhow, I've got to get myself quietened down to the anointing of that Angel of the Lord.
 
Now, I don't mean that that would heal you. That has nothing to do with your healing: only might make your faith greater (You see?), or something like that. 'Cause I presume that you and I are strangers. I don't believe I ever met you. I don't know you. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]/ref>51-0721 LIFE.OF.DEMONS.AND.VISIONS</ref>
 
 
I want you to walk just a little closer. I see you're very frail. I don't know what's wrong with you. But I just want you to talk to me, as I talk to you. I don't want you to be [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>51-0721 LIFE.OF.DEMONS.AND.VISIONS_</ref>
 


:''Good evening. You come forward just... May I have your hand just a moment. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>50-0714 AT.THY.WORD</ref>
:''Now, I don't mean that that would heal you. That has nothing to do with your healing: only might make your faith greater (You see?), or something like that. 'Cause I presume that you and I are strangers. I don't believe I ever met you. I don't know you. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>51-0721 LIFE.OF.DEMONS.AND.VISIONS</ref>




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:''All right, lady, you come ahead. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>51-0728 THREE.WITNESSES</ref>
:''All right, lady, you come ahead. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>51-0728 THREE.WITNESSES</ref>
:''Well, all right. Come, lady. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>51-0928 AT.THY.WORD</ref>




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:''All right. Come, lady... [Blank.spot.on.tape—Ed.]<ref>52-0717 GET.THE.PEOPLE.TO.BELIEVE</ref>
:''Do you believe me to be His prophet, sir? [Blank.spot.on.tape—Ed.]<ref>52-0719 MAKE.THE.VALLEY.FULL.OF.DITCHES</ref>
 
 
:''Every one be reverent. I want to talk to you just a moment. You stand back in this way, if you will. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
52-0718 FOR.HIM.WILL.I.ACCEPT_ HAMMOND.IN FRIDAY_
 
 
Do you believe me to be His prophet, sir? [Blank.spot.on.tape—Ed.]  
52-0719 MAKE.THE.VALLEY.FULL.OF.DITCHES
 
 
God has mercy on you. And now, He's revealed to me your life... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
52-0719 MAKE.THE.VALLEY.FULL.OF.DITCHES
 
 
Come, lady... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
52-0720E WHO.HAS.BELIEVED.OUR.REPORT_ HAMMOND.IN SUNDAY_
 
 
Come, lady. You like to be healed? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
52-0727 LED.BY.THE.HOLY.SPIRIT
 
 
All right. Come, sir. You believe Him? Are you believing, lady? Oh, what can happen now? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
52-0727 LED.BY.THE.HOLY.SPIRIT
 
 
Now, this... The person don't have to be on the platform here. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0510 TESTIMONY
 
 
I don't--don't know you. I believe we may be strangers. We're strangers, yes, ma'am. Well then, your life is [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0602 THE.AUTHORITY.OF.THE.WORD
 
 
All right, now the--the patient. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0604 THE.ANGEL.OF.THE.LORD
 
 
Come here. I want to talk to you again, just a minute. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0604 THE.ANGEL.OF.THE.LORD
 
 
See? Just to talk just a little. Now, I want you to be real reverent out there now and believe with all your heart. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] Do you believe it was the truth?
53-0605 THE.BEGINNING.OF.JESUS.FAME
 
 
All right, bring the lady. Come ahead, lady. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0606 AN.ENSIGN
 
 
[Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] Two? There's nothing I can do.
53-0607E A.TESTIMONY
 
 
All right. Are... You and I are strangers. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0610 JESUS.CHRIST.THE.SAME.YESTERDAY.TODAY.AND.FOREVER
 
 
May the Lord bless you, sister; both of you, come right up here. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0611 SHOW.US.THE.FATHER.AND.IT'LL.SATISFY.US
 
 
Come now. All right, come, lady. Lord, I pray that You'll bless her and may she get well. In Jesus' Name I bless her for her healing...?... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0613 GOD'S.PROVIDED.WAY
 
 
All right, come. Now, I know you, honey, I know who you are. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0613 GOD'S.PROVIDED.WAY
 
 
All right, come brother. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0613 GOD'S.PROVIDED.WAY
 
 
Come believing now. Lord, I pray that You'll bless our sister and may she get well; in Jesus Christ's Name I ask it. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0613 GOD'S.PROVIDED.WAY
 
 
Brother Boze, you bring the lady if you will.
[Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0902 TESTIMONY
 
 
God grant it and may our brother...?... Satan... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
53-0907E HEALING.LINE
 
 
And you got something wrong with the--the--the--the side of your face (is paralyzed), and your ear. Is that true? If that is, raise up your hand. Now, just a moment, there was something... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] Ever what It said was right. Now that was--that was my voice but it wasn't me speaking. See. Do you believe me?<ref>53-1120 DEMONOLOGY</ref>
 
 
 
 
What is your number, sir? What? Q. All right, who has Q number 1? I don't know who you are. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
54-0401 GOD'S.PREPARATION
 
 
All right. Howdy do, sir? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
54-0403 THE.HAND.OF.THE.LORD.CAME.UPON.HIM
 
 
I, just don't be in any hurry (See?), just be reverent. The woman is really sick, for there's a dark shadow hangs between me and her. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
55-0120 THE.SEVEN.COMPOUND.NAMES.OF.JEHOVAH
 
 
You're the patient, are you? All right. We're strangers to each other... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
55-0609 A.GREATER.WITNESS.THAN.JOHN
 
 
What cards was give out? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]... here for your first time?
55-0818 BLIND.BARTIMAEUS
 
 
Now, they bring the patients. Now, just a word with my interpreter. I... We're strange... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
55-0818 BLIND.BARTIMAEUS
 
 
If we disobey Him, and reject the Blood of His Son. Now, as the Lord Jesus [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] and know what's wrong [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
55-0826 THE.SAME.JESUS.TONIGHT
 
 
All right, come right here, lady.
[Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
55-1119 REDEEMER.REDEMPTION
 
 
Here's a woman lying here, stretched on a stretcher this morning in a serious condition. Well, if God doesn't touch her, she'll die. She's aged; she's an old mother, gray hair, wearing glasses, a very godly looking person. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
56-0101 WHY.ARE.PEOPLE.SO.TOSSED.ABOUT
 
 
We'll have to line you all up, but we're, we'll--we'll line up over here on this side.
[Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]... woman, I don't know. I've never seen her.
56-0401M THE.MIGHTY.CONQUEROR_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN SUNDAY_
 
 
You bring the person..?... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
56-0415 THE.DEEP.CALLING.TO.THE.DEEP
 
 
You know there might just that one woman. You say, "Maybe she come with me." I don't know the woman, but... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
56-0415 THE.DEEP.CALLING.TO.THE.DEEP
 
 
Now, the man before me is a stranger. I don't know him. I've never seen him. Is that right, sir? If it is, raise your hand. The man is a stranger, not a stranger before God.
Now, sir, you're here for something [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
56-0415 THE.DEEP.CALLING.TO.THE.DEEP
 
 
Who has G-number-1, raise up your hand. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
And don't doubt, and you'll see the glory of God, if you can believe. But you must believe.
56-0422 SHOW.US.THE.FATHER.AND.IT'LL.SATISFY




Come, lady. Do you believe with all your heart? You do? You just answer me, 'cause I'm contacting your spirit. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]  
:''Now, this... The person don't have to be on the platform here. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>53-0510 TESTIMONY</ref>
56-0613 JEHOVAH.JIREH




Here's another man. You're... This is the... Now, sometimes it's kindly subconscious [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
:''[Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] Two? There's nothing I can do.<ref>53-0607E A.TESTIMONY</ref>
56-0814 DIVINE.LOVE.AND.SOVEREIGN.GRACE




And what's yours name?... You're a junior. And your last name? McCloud. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]  
:''All right. Are... You and I are strangers. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>53-0610 JESUS.CHRIST.THE.SAME.YESTERDAY.TODAY.AND.FOREVER</ref>
56-0923 SPIRITUAL.ADOPTION




Lady, come right here. 51, would you...? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
:''What is your number, sir? What? Q. All right, who has Q number 1? I don't know who you are. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>54-0401 GOD'S.PREPARATION</ref>
56-1206 A.SECONDHANDED.ROBE




Now, if Jesus was here today, and you come down to where He was... You heard He was down here in Brooklyn, and you come to Him, and He come to you, now, He would know you, wouldn't He? He--He would what you--what was your...?... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
:''What cards was give out? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]... here for your first time?<ref>55-0818 BLIND.BARTIMAEUS</ref>
56-1206 A.SECONDHANDED.ROBE




Dark skinned lady setting right here. She's suffering with a bladder trouble. That's right. I never seen you in my life. But Christ let me catch your prayer. You believe me to be His prophet? His servant, rather. You do? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]  
:''Who has G-number-1, raise up your hand. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] And don't doubt, and you'll see the glory of God, if you can believe. But you must believe.<ref>56-0422 SHOW.US.THE.FATHER.AND.IT'LL.SATISFY</ref>
56-1209E JEHOVAH.JIREH




Now, if you trust me to be God's servant, if you believe me to be God's... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]  
:''Come, lady. Do you believe with all your heart? You do? You just answer me, 'cause I'm contacting your spirit. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>56-0613 JEHOVAH.JIREH</ref>
57-0226 SIRS.WE.WOULD.SEE.JESUS




Look here, sir, just a moment. This is our first time meeting. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]  
:''And what's yours name?... You're a junior. And your last name? McCloud. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>56-0923 SPIRITUAL.ADOPTION</ref>
57-0228 A.GREATER.THAN.SOLOMON.IS.HERE




How do you do, little girl? You know, honey, when Jesus was here on earth, He seen little, sweet looking, little girls like you. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]  
:''Lady, come right here. 51, would you...? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>56-1206 A.SECONDHANDED.ROBE</ref>
57-0810 JEHOVAH.JIREH




Your healing is already purchased. Healing is a finished work. I have no healing in my hand. I have... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] '''You must be mistaken, brother.'''<ref>57-1211 SIRS.WE.WOULD.SEE.JESUS</ref>
:''Now, if Jesus was here today, and you come down to where He was... You heard He was down here in Brooklyn, and you come to Him, and He come to you, now, He would know you, wouldn't He? He--'''He would what you--what was your...?...''' [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>56-1206 A.SECONDHANDED.ROBE</ref>




If I could see number 5, the gentleman here, would you come? Number 6, would you...
:''Dark skinned lady setting right here. She's suffering with a bladder trouble. That's right. I never seen you in my life. But Christ let me catch your prayer. You believe me to be His prophet? His servant, rather. You do? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>56-1209E JEHOVAH.JIREH</ref>
[Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
How they do it, they come right down and shuffle the cards out between you, and mix up... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
57-1229 FAITH_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN


And He will let me know something about you [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
58-0110 THE.MIGHTY.CONQUEROR


:''Your healing is already purchased. Healing is a finished work. I have no healing in my hand. I have... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] '''You must be mistaken, brother.'''<ref>57-1211 SIRS.WE.WOULD.SEE.JESUS</ref>


The lady right here. Number 3, would you raise your hand? [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.] We are strangers.
58-0309E WILL.THE.CHURCH.GO.BEFORE.THE.TRIBULATION


:''If I could see number 5, the gentleman here, would you come? Number 6, would you... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]  How they do it, '''they come right down and shuffle the cards out between you, and mix up'''... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>57-1229 FAITH_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN</ref>


You've saw me before. All right. But I don't know you. So the audience will know that, sister (See?), would you just raise up your hand? I do not know you, have nothing, no more than... We're just meeting. You've saw me some... [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
58-0324 HEAR.YE.HIM


:''The boy is your son, and he has a mental condition. That's THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>58-0328 GOD.KEEPS.HIS.WORD</ref>


The boy is your son, and he has a mental condition. That's THUS SAITH THE LORD GOD. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
58-0328 GOD.KEEPS.HIS.WORD


:''I never seen you in my life. That's right. If it is, raise up your hand, that I'm a stranger to you. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]<ref>58-0500 THE EAGLE STIRRING HER NEST NEW ENGLAND</ref>


I never seen you in my life. That's right. If it is, raise up your hand, that I'm a stranger to you. [Blank.spot.on.tape--Ed.]
===But then things change a bit after 1958===
58-0500 THE EAGLE STIRRING HER NEST NEW ENGLAND
...
Of course, things change a bit after 1958:
...
Now, there's a change in my ministry coming. And how many... Would there be one here that remembers when I first started on the field? Let's see your hand. Oh, my, there's several. You remember how it was given to me by the Angel of the Lord, that I would take my left hand and lay it onto the--the person was standing sick, and not use my own voice, and It would speak out and tell them what was wrong with them? You remember that? And you remember, I told you that the Holy Spirit told me that night when I talked to Him, what it would be. And said, "Then if you'll be sincere, it'll come to a place that you'll know the very secret of their heart." How many of you that was in my first meetings heard me tell that before that ever come to pass, raise up your hands high. That's good. Now, has it come to pass?
Then He said, "If you'll continue to be sincere and humble, it'll grow greater and greater." And now, this ministry is going to step higher now, into another realm, where it'll be far beyond what it is now. I don't know just what it is, but I'm warned of the Holy Spirit to quickly now, close my meetings off (My last one will be in Philadelphia), and go into the hills and wait on the Lord to see which a way to conduct this ministry. When I come out again, it'll be in a new ministry. This ministry will never cease; this ministry will continue on. This first will continue on; it's still just the same.
58-0620 THE.QUEEN.OF.THE.SOUTH


=Footnotes=
:''Now, there's a change in my ministry coming. And how many... Would there be one here that remembers when I first started on the field? Let's see your hand. Oh, my, there's several. You remember how it was given to me by the Angel of the Lord, that I would take my left hand and lay it onto the--the person was standing sick, and not use my own voice, and It would speak out and tell them what was wrong with them? You remember that? And you remember, I told you that the Holy Spirit told me that night when I talked to Him, what it would be. And said, "Then if you'll be sincere, it'll come to a place that you'll know the very secret of their heart." How many of you that was in my first meetings heard me tell that before that ever come to pass, raise up your hands high. That's good. Now, has it come to pass?


<references/>
:''Then He said, "If you'll continue to be sincere and humble, it'll grow greater and greater." And now, this ministry is going to step higher now, into another realm, where it'll be far beyond what it is now. I don't know just what it is, but I'm warned of the Holy Spirit to quickly now, close my meetings off (My last one will be in Philadelphia), and go into the hills and wait on the Lord to see which a way to conduct this ministry. When I come out again, it'll be in a new ministry. This ministry will never cease; this ministry will continue on. This first will continue on; it's still just the same.<ref>58-0620 THE.QUEEN.OF.THE.SOUTH</ref>


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