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Lee Vayle (September 28, 1914 - June 23, 2012) was a close personal friend of William Branham.  He assisted in the editing (what William Branham referred to as "Grammarization") of the Church Age Book.  Lee Vayle was a message preacher and over the years taught a number of heretical doctrines including the ''Parousia doctrine'', a view of the Godhead that denied the deity of Jesus Christ and espousing [[Nestorianism]].  Some of these doctrines are remarkably similar to some of the foundational beliefs of the Jehovah's Witnesses.

:Brother Vayle only attended post high school for about 6 weeks at the age of 18 years old. He attended a Baptist Bible college and proceeded to get kicked out for teaching the young men to speak in tongues. He received his doctor tag from Brother Branham who said Br. Vayle was an profound teacher and began introducing him as Doctor Lee Vayle. Who better to give him the title of Doctor, than the prophet of our day?"

Lee Vayle became widely known in message circles for preaching heretical doctrines and destroying what little unity there was in the message by creating a special group within the message (most of whom had already thought that they were part of a special group).

Also, Lee Vayle was known for his extremely vulgarity, to the point where he stated that it was better for a man to rape a woman than to seduce her.   

Now in '''2 Thessalonians 1:7''', It says, "Those who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels." ('''That has taken place already in 1963'''.) <ref>Lee Vayle, Rapture, #10 Rapture, November 16th, 1983</ref>

Which so many people don't understand where we stand here in this ministry of Bro. Branham's, on the Presence, which is the Appearing. Every single one of those words has started, and is moving, and moving, and moving--as '''Christ started to appear, and move into His Church, in 1933'''! But it was in 1963, that we saw Rev 10:1 join with Rev 10:7, you see, bringing forth the Seals and all. And at that time Bro. Branham said he had to decrease, so that Christ would come more and more, and God would take Headship--God in the form of the Holy Spirit in a Pillar of Fire.

Now this running of the... looking as though the Millennium and the New Jerusalem are run together, so you can't differentiate--you can. This only appears so, because time and eternity have blended. And New Jerusalem is, actually, only a continuation of what we are about to enter into by way of the Resurrection and Rapture, as '''Christ started coming into the church, through His Appearing in June 11, 1933, and finally took Headship, in about 1963''', right when He came down. See? That's the idea. He's got to come down to take Headship in order to raise the dead, finish off that Shout.<ref>Future Home, #2 One Plan For All, May 1st, 1988</ref>

Now God left him. The body was raised up and put behind the throne on the mercy seat. But '''in March 1963, He left the mercy seat''', went to the Father's throne, took the Book of Redemption out of the Father's hand, ripped off the Seals, put the Book back in the Father's hands, the Father vacated the throne, and that one climbed upon the throne. Now that's what the Bible teaches according to Bro. Branham. And that's "THUS SAITH THE LORD", because he is a vindicated prophet. All right. <ref>Lee Vayle, Shalom, #10 Peace: Revelation Of God, April 9th, 1989</ref>

In these places '''the New World Translation''' renders Paramia as ‘be present’ or ‘present himself’ from the contrast that is made between the presence and the absence of Paul, both in 2 Cor 10:10, 11 and Phil 2:12.

The terms Paramia and Parousia are never used for the coming of Christ in the flesh. And Parousia never has the sense of ‘return’. I think it’s the word ‘Parousia.’ Because its put in the Greek there. Let me see if it does? Yeah. I’m not a Greek student. The idea of more than one Parousia is first found only in the latter church not before Justin a basic prerequisite for understanding the world of thought of primitive Christianity is that we should fully free ourselves from the notion of more than one Parousia. I tell you; it’s just one and that’s it.<ref>Lee Vayle, Does God Change His Mind, #11 Complete and Perfect Revelation, 5 Jan 1992</ref>

I found within the Message today there appears to be a split in some of the fundamental teaching, most of you predict the fact that some feel 1963 mark the dispensation of change which precipitated the coming the Parousia of the Lord.  

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That's not true. What '''1963 was Rev 22:10''', and it's not so much a dispensation, it's a winding up of all the mysteries and those things; which started under the Seven Seals, back in the Garden of Eden. Adam could not go to the Tree of Life and live forever.

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So therefore, He's coming quickly at this particular time when the Word divides the people from the non Word. Matthew 24, into those who are now in the Rapture of Luke 17. So therefore this is not of something concerning the Parousia, '''He's already here. He came in 1933.''' But he never set Himself the head of the church until the church was set in order by the Word; coming more and more into the church. No problem, just the same as you're going from Israel. If they would of gone on and on, the kingdom... God that was in the holy temple that left the tabernacle, would have been right there to go to the Millennium and right to the New Jerusalem. The coming God, the becoming God, moving on, moving on.<ref>Lee Vayle, Questions and Answers, #11 The Seventh Seal and Third Pull, August 1st, 1992</ref>

:''People come from around the world. They come over here, and they say, "Vayle's got the worst spirit in the world. Terry Sproule's got the worst spirit in the world. Roger Smith's got the worst spirit in the world. Mike Hunt's got the worst spirit." Why? Because our foreheads are strong. We've not got whore foreheads. Whore foreheads; they can have their whore foreheads. I've got as strong a forehead as the whore any day of the week. Yes, sir. The same ones like the whore, they partake of their miserable, rotten intercourse. And It says, "She commits her intercourse; she charges money for it."  

:''Then you don't believe Logos. Whore's forehead. Jesus set His face like a flint! How did William Branham feel, knowing he's going down that road that day to be killed in that wreck? You say, "It tore his guts up." You bet it tore his guts up.  

:''"Oh, but Jesus didn't have any guts."