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[[Image:WPCbranhamdurban.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The 1951 Durban meetings]] | |||
{{Failed Visions}} | |||
=The Vision of the African Meeting= | |||
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=The Facts Relating to the Vision= | |||
In 1952, William Branham | In '''1951''' William Branham held a series of successful meetings in Durban, South Africa. | ||
In '''1952''', William Branham related a vision of a meeting in Durban, South Africa and stated publicly that "''I'm going to have a meeting that's going to consist of three hundred thousand people''." He also said that the vision was "'''''THUS SAITH THE LORD mark it in your book.'''''" | |||
As with most of his visions, it rapidly became confused and soon began to include India as well as Africa. | As with most of his visions, it rapidly became confused and soon began to include India as well as Africa. | ||
William Branham clearly thought that the vision would be fulfilled | William Branham '''visited India in September, 1954'''. He clearly thought that the vision would be fulfilled during that trip, but later admitted, in his own words, that it wasn't fulfilled: | ||
:''as many of you might know, the Indian trip wasn't the success that it should've been, because I failed to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, and never recognized it after He give me a vision to go to Africa first and then to India. | :''...as many of you might know, the Indian trip wasn't the success that it should've been, because I failed to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, and never recognized it after He give me a vision to go to Africa first and then to India. | ||
In January 1958, he reinterpreted the vision to having him going to India first and then to Africa. In March 1958, he started preparing to go to Africa again and thought that the vision would be fulfilled there: | In January '''1958''', he reinterpreted the vision to having him going to India first and then to Africa. In March 1958, he started preparing to go to Africa again and thought that the vision would be fulfilled there: | ||
:''I just got my telegram back this morning from Durban, South Africa. The vision where three hundred thousand people will be gathered pretty soon for a meeting which is coming up right away... | :''I just got my telegram back this morning from Durban, South Africa. The vision where three hundred thousand people will be gathered pretty soon for a meeting which is coming up right away... | ||
However, the plans for this trip fell through and the vision remained unfulfilled. In 1965, plans were again made to go to Africa and again the fulfillment of the vision was clearly anticipated: | However, the plans for this trip fell through and the vision remained unfulfilled. In '''1965''', plans were again made to go to Africa and again the fulfillment of the vision was clearly anticipated: | ||
:''And I--I'm going to South Africa after this. For, oh, my, you know how it is down there where you can't even talk to the people. And there'd be... We're at least expecting three hundred thousand, one single meeting. | :''And I--I'm going to South Africa after this. For, oh, my, you know how it is down there where you can't even talk to the people. And there'd be... We're at least expecting three hundred thousand, one single meeting. | ||
But on this final trip the vision again failed to materialized. William Branham's visa was restricted in a way that prohibited him from holding any meetings. | But on this final trip the vision again failed to materialized. William Branham's visa was restricted in a way that prohibited him from holding any meetings. | ||
'''William Branham died just prior to the end of 1965 with the vision remaining unfulfilled.''' | |||
=Explanations for the Failed Vision= | |||
People who believe that William Branham is a true prophet explain away this vision in the following ways. | People who believe that William Branham is a true prophet explain away this vision in the following ways. | ||
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There are a few problems with these explanations: | There are a few problems with these explanations: | ||
==William Branham will return to fulfill this vision== | |||
William Branham died in 1965, and a large stone pyramid now sits on top of his grave in Indiana. However, followers of the [[The Returned Ministry Sect|the Returned Ministry sect]] believe that William Branham will raise from the dead to travel to South Africa to hold meetings and accomplish the other unfulfilled visions (such as ''[[The Brown Bear Vision]]''). | William Branham died in 1965, and a large stone pyramid now sits on top of his grave in Indiana. However, followers of the [[The Returned Ministry Sect|the Returned Ministry sect]] believe that William Branham will raise from the dead to travel to South Africa to hold meetings and accomplish the other unfulfilled visions (such as ''[[The Brown Bear Vision]]''). | ||
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This is not only a foolish concept but also completely unscriptural. | This is not only a foolish concept but also completely unscriptural. | ||
==William Branham's failed vision was no different from Jonah's failed prophecy== | |||
''“God relented from the disaster that He had said He would bring upon”'' the people of Nineveh (Jonah 3:10) because they repented. Applying this scripture to William Branham’s life might make sense in the context of the vision of the destruction of Los Angeles (although there was no mass-repentance in L.A. as there was in Nineveh). However, this scripture does not work in the context of a vision of holding meetings in South Africa, as the meetings were to be held to allow people to repent. | ''“God relented from the disaster that He had said He would bring upon”'' the people of Nineveh (Jonah 3:10) because they repented. Applying this scripture to William Branham’s life might make sense in the context of the vision of the destruction of Los Angeles (although there was no mass-repentance in L.A. as there was in Nineveh). However, this scripture does not work in the context of a vision of holding meetings in South Africa, as the meetings were to be held to allow people to repent. | ||
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Years before the Jonah went to Nineveh, the prophet Jeremiah said that God would withhold his judgement to a Nation that would repent. ''"The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it."'' (Jeremiah 18:7-8) There is no scriptural precident that says God will relent of a vision that involves the holding of meetings to proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ. | Years before the Jonah went to Nineveh, the prophet Jeremiah said that God would withhold his judgement to a Nation that would repent. ''"The instant I speak concerning a nation and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, to pull down, and to destroy it, if that nation against whom I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent of the disaster that I thought to bring upon it."'' (Jeremiah 18:7-8) There is no scriptural precident that says God will relent of a vision that involves the holding of meetings to proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ. | ||
==William Branham was disobedient== | |||
'''''“Thus Saith The Lord”''''' should be stronger than an individual’s lack of obedience. | '''''“Thus Saith The Lord”''''' should be stronger than an individual’s lack of obedience. | ||
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There is only one exception for a prophesy not to be fulfilled – and this involves repentance by the person (or nation) being judged. If it was acceptable for one prophet to say "Oops! I made a personal mistake, and that’s why the vision was not fulfilled," then every false prophet would claim this easy-out excuse. For this reason, the Word of God only permits one explanation for a failed vision, because repentance satisfies the wrath of God. That is why Ezekiel says, ''“Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.”'' (Ezekiel 18:30) | There is only one exception for a prophesy not to be fulfilled – and this involves repentance by the person (or nation) being judged. If it was acceptable for one prophet to say "Oops! I made a personal mistake, and that’s why the vision was not fulfilled," then every false prophet would claim this easy-out excuse. For this reason, the Word of God only permits one explanation for a failed vision, because repentance satisfies the wrath of God. That is why Ezekiel says, ''“Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.”'' (Ezekiel 18:30) | ||
==The vision was fulfilled== | |||
Owen Jorgensen in Book Four of his series, ''[[Supernatural: The Life of William Branham]]'' effectively states that the vision was fulfilled in William Branham's trip to India in September 1954. | Owen Jorgensen in Book Four of his series, ''[[Supernatural: The Life of William Branham]]'' effectively states that the vision was fulfilled in William Branham's trip to India in September 1954. | ||
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#William Branham was known to wildly exaggerate the number of people attending his meetings. | #William Branham was known to wildly exaggerate the number of people attending his meetings. | ||
=Conclusion= | |||
So what will you do with this failed vision? Will you succumb to [[Cognitive Dissonance|cognitive dissonance]] and trivialize a vision that even William Branham thought was unfulfilled? | So what will you do with this failed vision? Will you succumb to [[Cognitive Dissonance|cognitive dissonance]] and trivialize a vision that even William Branham thought was unfulfilled? Look at the facts and make up your own mind. | ||
=Quotes= | |||
==1952== | |||
EARLY.SPIRITUAL.EXPERIENCES_ HAMMOND.IN SUNDAY_ 52-0713A | EARLY.SPIRITUAL.EXPERIENCES_ HAMMOND.IN SUNDAY_ 52-0713A | ||
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:''Recently when we was talking to a missionary from India, '''where God has told me to go to, where I will have a crowd of three hundred thousand people in one meeting...''' Notice, in that same man, he said, "There's only one thing Brother Branham, that'll ever stir the people of India from those Mohammedans, and idolaters and so forth, it'll take the real power of God. Where demons when they rise up, the power of God there is to let them down. Be sure you know what you're talking of. | :''Recently when we was talking to a missionary from India, '''where God has told me to go to, where I will have a crowd of three hundred thousand people in one meeting...''' Notice, in that same man, he said, "There's only one thing Brother Branham, that'll ever stir the people of India from those Mohammedans, and idolaters and so forth, it'll take the real power of God. Where demons when they rise up, the power of God there is to let them down. Be sure you know what you're talking of. | ||
==1953== | |||
ISRAEL.AND.THE.CHURCH.1 JEFF.IN IC 1-34 53-0325 | ISRAEL.AND.THE.CHURCH.1 JEFF.IN IC 1-34 53-0325 | ||
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:''Like Doctor Palai is going over to India. He said, "Well, Brother Branham, shall I--shall..." And these converts, they claim to be a million in the congregation. '''God has promised three hundred and fifty thou--three hundred thousand in the converts.''' And he said, "What shall we do with them? Shall we all take them into the Anglican church?" | :''Like Doctor Palai is going over to India. He said, "Well, Brother Branham, shall I--shall..." And these converts, they claim to be a million in the congregation. '''God has promised three hundred and fifty thou--three hundred thousand in the converts.''' And he said, "What shall we do with them? Shall we all take them into the Anglican church?" | ||
==1954== | |||
DO.YOU.NOW.BELIEVE PHOENIX.AZ 54-0307E | DO.YOU.NOW.BELIEVE PHOENIX.AZ 54-0307E | ||
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:''There's a woman, went over there, Mrs. Dowd. I don't know whether you ever heard of her or not. Oh, such a disgrace that was in India. '''That's the reason we couldn't even have our meetings in the open air.''' | :''There's a woman, went over there, Mrs. Dowd. I don't know whether you ever heard of her or not. Oh, such a disgrace that was in India. '''That's the reason we couldn't even have our meetings in the open air.''' | ||
==1957== | |||
INDIA.TRIP.REPORT LIMA.OH 57-0126B | INDIA.TRIP.REPORT LIMA.OH 57-0126B | ||
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:''"God, open my eyes that I might see. Let me look past curtains of time, Lord. Let me just see, Lord, what's around me. Let me see what's fixing to happen." | :''"God, open my eyes that I might see. Let me look past curtains of time, Lord. Let me just see, Lord, what's around me. Let me see what's fixing to happen." | ||
==1958== | |||
THE.QUEEN.OF.SHEBA CHICAGO.IL 58-0107 | THE.QUEEN.OF.SHEBA CHICAGO.IL 58-0107 | ||
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:''And I just want say this, the many who knows me, and my friends are in here tonight, '''I just got my telegram back this morning from Durban, South Africa. The vision where three hundred thousand people will be gathered pretty soon for a meeting which is coming up right away...''' Oh, I'm so thankful for that. Dr. Vayle, I don't know whether you... Yeah, I believe I did tell you in the lobby awhile ago that we had gotten back now. I guess we will... The letter of details will coming soon. | :''And I just want say this, the many who knows me, and my friends are in here tonight, '''I just got my telegram back this morning from Durban, South Africa. The vision where three hundred thousand people will be gathered pretty soon for a meeting which is coming up right away...''' Oh, I'm so thankful for that. Dr. Vayle, I don't know whether you... Yeah, I believe I did tell you in the lobby awhile ago that we had gotten back now. I guess we will... The letter of details will coming soon. | ||
==1964== | |||
RECOGNIZING.YOUR.DAY.AND.ITS.MESSAGE JEFF.IN 64-0726M | RECOGNIZING.YOUR.DAY.AND.ITS.MESSAGE JEFF.IN 64-0726M | ||
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:''Something said, "Stop right here! Don't you go that way. Turn on in into India. Don't go that. Go over to India, but don't you go here." | :''Something said, "Stop right here! Don't you go that way. Turn on in into India. Don't go that. Go over to India, but don't you go here." | ||
==1965== | |||
DOES.GOD.CHANGE.HIS.MIND LA.CA 65-0427 | DOES.GOD.CHANGE.HIS.MIND LA.CA 65-0427 | ||
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:''I had an experience with that just recently on the road to Africa. If I ever had any time that the Devil ever did press at me, was to go to Africa this last time. It become one of the--the finest meetings and times that I ever went overseas. I | :''I had an experience with that just recently on the road to Africa. If I ever had any time that the Devil ever did press at me, was to go to Africa this last time. It become one of the--the finest meetings and times that I ever went overseas. I | ||
=Video Transcript= | |||
In 1952, William Branham related a vision that he had: | In 1952, William Branham related a vision that he had: | ||
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