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The video below contains an error in that it indicates that there were no fatalities in the building of the Municipal Bridge.  This is in error as, based on research performed by [[Searching for Vindication]], there were 2 fatalities in the construction of the bridge as noted below.
The video above contains an error in that it indicates that there were no fatalities in the building of the Municipal Bridge.  This is in error as, based on research performed by [[Searching for Vindication]], there were 2 fatalities in the construction of the bridge as noted below.


As a result, the video will be edited to correct this error as soon as possible.  
As a result, the video will be edited to correct this error as soon as possible.  
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<mediaplayer width='800' height='600'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPxLLO61lE4</mediaplayer>


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[[Image:Tab30.jpg|right|thumb|250px|The George Rogers Clark Memorial Bridge as seen from Jeffersonville, with Louisville, Kentucky in the background]]
|[[Image:Tab30.jpg|right|thumb|250px|The George Rogers Clark Memorial Bridge as seen from Jeffersonville, with Louisville, Kentucky in the background]]


William Branham often told of a vision he had as a young child of 16 men falling to their deaths while building a bridge across the Ohio river.   
William Branham often told of a vision he had as a young child of 16 men falling to their deaths while building a bridge across the Ohio river.   
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=Problems with the Prophecy=
=Problems with the Prophecy=
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|'''[http://en.believethesign.com/index.php/French#La_v.C3.A9rit.C3.A9_pure_et_simple_sur_la_proph.C3.A9tie_du_pont En Francais]'''  <br> La vérité pure et simple sur la prophétie du pont.
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'''[http://en.believethesign.com/index.php/Dutch#William_Branham.27s_visioen_van_Municipalbrug_in_Louisville Dutch]''' <br> William Branham's visioen van Municipalbrug in Louisville.
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==Problem 1: No evidence of 16 fatalities==
==Problem 1: No evidence of 16 fatalities==
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Our research indicates that many deaths occurred during the construction of the Big Four Bridge, which is a railroad bridge a half mile upstream from the Municipal Bridge that opened to the public in 1895.   
Our research indicates that many deaths occurred during the construction of the Big Four Bridge, which is a railroad bridge a half mile upstream from the Municipal Bridge that opened to the public in 1895.   


A summary of these fatalities includes:
Construction of the Big Four bridge began on October 10, 1888.  A summary of the fatalities during the construction is as follows:
    
    
#12 people died working on a pier foundation when a caisson flooded,
#12 people died working on a pier foundation when a caisson flooded (about a year after construction started);
#4 people died when a wooden beam broke in a different pier caisson  
#4 people died when a wooden beam broke in a different pier caisson (several months after the first accident); and
#21 workers died when a construction crane was dislodged by wind, causing the supporting truss and 41 workers to fall into the Ohio river.  
#On December 15, 1893, a construction crane was dislodged by wind causing the supporting truss to collapse which resulted 41 workers falling into the Ohio river. 21 workers died as a result.


In William Branham's vision, 16 people died when they fell off the bridge.  With the Big Four Bridge, 16 people died working in caissons under the bridge while 21 died falling off the bridge.  All of these fatalities occurred before William Branham was born.
In William Branham's vision, 16 people died when they fell off the bridge.  With the Big Four Bridge, 37 people died in the construction of the bridge.  All of these fatalities occurred before William Branham was born.


==Problem 3: The timing of the vision==
==Problem 3: The timing of the vision==
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==Problem 4: William Branham's Reference was to the Municipal Bridge==
==Problem 4: William Branham's Reference was to the Municipal Bridge==
We understanding that William Branham took Pastor Pearry Green underneath the Municipal bridge, and pointed out the exact section of the bridge that fell into the river.  The problem is not in Pearry Green's retelling of the story - as he did not grow up in Jeffersonville and had no reason to doubt William Branham - the problem lies with William Branham's recollection of the facts and the prophecy. Again, there is no historic indication that any section or portion of the Municipal Bridge fell into the Ohio river.
In a phone conversation with Pearry Green, he told us that William Branham stood underneath the Municipal bridge, and pointed out the exact section of the bridge that fell into the river.  That is the reason that Pearry specifically points out on the video clip the exact section of the bridge that he said fell into the river and which resulted in the deaths of 16 men.
 
The problem is not in Pearry Green's retelling of the story - he did not grow up in Jeffersonville and had no reason to doubt William Branham.  The problem lies with William Branham's prophecy and the story that he used to prove its fulfillment. There is no historic indication that any section or portion of the Municipal Bridge fell into the Ohio river or that anyone died in its construction, other than the two men whose deaths were reported in the newspapers.


==Problem 5: William Branham refers to the Municipal Bridge as being unimportant==
==Problem 5: William Branham refers to the Municipal Bridge as being unimportant==
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This vision is suspect simply because William Branham never attempted to warn anyone.  In fact, he seemed quite proud of the fact that he foretold their deaths (which in fact never happened).
This vision is suspect simply because William Branham never attempted to warn anyone.  In fact, he seemed quite proud of the fact that he foretold their deaths (which in fact never happened).


=Excuses for the failed vision brought on by [[Cognitive Dissonance|cognitive dissonance]]=
=Excuses for the failed vision=
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If you don't know what [[Cognitive Dissonance|cognitive dissonance]] is, please read our article on the subject. You might find that you are suffering from it!
Are you looking for a simple and easy way to ignore the facts above?  If so, this is called [[Cognitive Dissonance|cognitive dissonance]].  It is a term that explains why intelligent people will often settle for answers that are not reasonable, in order to ignore the real issue.


One of the results of [[Cognitive Dissonance|cognitive dissonance]] is that dissonance reduction will often cause the sufferer to look for a simple and easy way to ignore the fact that is causing the dissonance.  As a result, quite intelligent people will often settle for answers that are not reasonable, but allow the sufferer to ignore the real issue.
==William Branham was young when he had the vision==


==William Branham was young when he had the vision==
If William Branham was young when he had the vision, perhaps he simply forgot it or misremembered it.  Kids forget a lot of things and get memories messed up.  That would explain why the vision was not fulfilled properly.


If William Branham was young when he had the vision, perhaps he simply forgot it.  Kids forget a lot of things and get memories messed up.  That would explain why the vision was not fulfilled properly.
If this is the case, then it could still be fulfilled in the future, when the bridge is being repaired


There are several problems with this explanation:
There are several problems with this explanation:


1. Why would God give a vision to a child but not give him the ability to remember it.
1. Why would God give a vision to a child but not give him the ability to remember it?


2. William Branham said that they wrote it down.
2. William Branham said that the people that heard him give the vision wrote it down.


3. William Branham said, '''as an adult''', that the vision was fulfilled.  The problem is that he is attesting to something that was not true.  He said that 16 men died on the bridge, but they didn't.
3. William Branham said, '''as an adult''', that the vision was fulfilled.  The problem is that he is attesting to something that was not true.  '''Why did he say that 16 men died on the bridge, when they didn't?'''


==The 1937 Flood destroyed all of the historical archives==
==The 1937 Flood destroyed all of the historical archives==


This is the theory floated by [[VoGR]] in an attempt to refute the failure of the municipal bridge vision.  However, that theory was destroyed by the article on the subject on the [[Searching for Vindication]] website.  While it is true that some archives were damaged, complete archived copies of the Jeffersonville newspapers and the Coast Guard log books remain preserved.
This was the position of Voice of God Recordings until a blog called [[Searching for Vindication]] destroyed this as a plausible theory.  While it is true that some archives were damaged, complete archived copies of the Jeffersonville Newspapers and the Coast Guard log books remain preserved.


Also, does anyone actually believe that the wives, children and parents of the families of 16 men who died would allow their memories to be forgotten?  There isn't the slightest chance that they would.
Also, does anyone actually believe that the wives, children and parents of the families of 16 men who died would allow their memories to be forgotten?  Not in America.


==The vision properly relates to the Ohio River Flood of 1937==
==The vision properly relates to the Ohio River Flood of 1937==


This excuse basically says that only one small element of the vision was true - that it took place 22 years after he had it.  But this would mean that virtually everything about the vision was false.
This excuse basically says that only one small element of the vision was true - that the vision was fulfilled 22 years after he saw it.  But this would mean that virtually everything else about the vision was false.
 
It didn't relate to the bridge construction.  No one fell off the bridge in the construction but 385 people died.
 
Trying to tie the Municipal Bridge Vision to the Ohio Flood is virtually impossible unless you are willing to admit that most of the vision was completely wrong but then, doesn't that still create a problem with Deuteronomy 18:22?


==The vision properly relates to the Sydney Harbour Bridge in Australia==
==The vision properly relates to the Sydney Harbour Bridge in Australia==


[[Cognitive Dissonance]] drives people to find explanations, even if things have to be stretched beyond the realms of reasonableness.  The thought that William Branham was not a prophet is just not possible for their minds to deal with.
This explanation is only possible if you go beyond the realms of reasonableness ([[Cognitive Dissonance|cognitive dissonance]] again).  


The rationale for the Sydney Harbour bridge being the actual object of the prophecy is as follows:
The rationale for the Sydney Harbour bridge being the actual object of the prophecy is as follows:


#16 people were killed in the construction of the bridge.
#16 people were killed in the construction of the bridge.
#The bridge was opened in March 1932 and if you roll back 22 years, that takes you about the time that William Branham was born.
#The bridge was opened in March 1932 and if you roll back 22 years, that takes you to about the time that William Branham was born.
#William Branham never mentioned the Municipal Bridge in the original vision.
#William Branham never mentioned the Municipal Bridge in the original vision.


The issues that proponents of this wild theory don't consider is the following:
Proponents of this wild theory don't consider the following:


#In the FIRST recorded retelling of the vision in 1948 (48-0302), William Branham specifically refers to the municipal bridge.
#In the FIRST recorded retelling of the vision in 1948 (48-0302), William Branham specifically refers to the municipal bridge.
#While 16 people did die in the construction of the Sydney Harbour bridge, only 2 of these people died from falling off the bridge.  William Branham clearly stated that he saw 16 people fall of the bridge.
#While 16 people did die in the construction of the Sydney Harbour bridge, only 2 of these people died from falling off the bridge.  William Branham clearly stated that he saw 16 people fall from the bridge.
#William Branham stated that he had the vision when he was 5 or 6 years old when he had the vision, so 22 years later would put the Sydney Bridge deaths much too early in time.
#William Branham stated that he had the vision when he was 5 or 6 years old, so 22 years later would put the Sydney Bridge deaths much too early in time.
#William Branham clearly stated that he saw the bridge spanning the river but the Sydney Harbour bridge goes across a narrow part of the harbour (i.e. salt water and not part of a river).
#William Branham clearly stated that he saw the bridge spanning the river but the Sydney Harbour bridge goes across a narrow part of an inlet (i.e. its over the ocean, not a river).
 
==The men drowned in concrete==
John "Jack" Vissing, the son of the late Richard Vissing, a former mayor of Jeffersonville, stated that:
 
:''My father was 14 when the bridge opened in 1929, and had sat in the car with his cousin for 12 hours waiting for the ribbon to be cut so they could be the first to drive across the bridge that linked Jeffersonville to Louisville, Kentucky. My father was given a bronze medallion that day at the ceremony to commemorate the bridge opening. I still have that medallion.
 
:''The story of the bridge collapse was not given to me by my Dad or by Brother Billy, but by my grandmother, Maud, and by a lady named Dorothy Phillips. She was about my dad’s age and went to church with us at St. Luke’s United Church of Christ. She was telling me about being a little girl watching the construction from the river bank. Remember, that although the depression had not “officially” begun, things were not very good economically in Jeffersonville at that time. Many people had no diversions, and spent time watching the construction of this bridge, as I am sure Brother Billy and my dad did as well. Dorothy recalled seeing scaffolding up around the piling in the first water pile, and she recalled it collapsing while there was a major cement pour and she saw men falling into the cement who were never removed. It was a tragedy at the time, and many people were appalled.
 
===Problem #1 - The age of Jack's grandmother===
 
In a conversation that I had with Jack Vissing he stated that it was his grandmother who had witnessed this as a young girl.
 
If so, this is a clear case of Jack Vissing getting the Big Four bridge confused with the Municipal Bridge.'''  If Jack's father was 14 in 1929, then it is obvious that his grandmother could not have been a young girl at the same time.  However, she would have been a young girl in 1895, when the Big Four bridge had 3 different fatal accidents as noted above.  Also, the 16 men that died in the construction of the caissons (on two separate occasions) would appear to be very close the description of the accident that she saw.
 
===Problem #2 - Nothing reported in the newspapers===
 
Jack states that "t was a tragedy at the time, and many people were appalled."
 
If this was widespread knowledge at the time it happened, why was it not reported in the local papers?
 
If sixteen men died, how could this be kept secret given the mothers, fathers, siblings and spouses of the people that supposedly died.  How would you keep all of them quiet?
 
There were two men who did die in the construction of the municipal bridge and whose deaths made the front page of the  Jeffersonville newspaper.  The fact that there was no reporting of these deaths argues for it never having happened.  Again, we think Jack's grandmother confused this with the death of the men on the Big Four bridge.
 
===Problem #3 - The myth of men drowning in concrete===
 
From an engineering perspective, this story is so implausible it is funny.  But that is the lengths that people will go to because of [[Cognitive Dissonance|cognitive dissonance]].
 
This is a story that is also told of the Hoover Dam. The workers were entombed in concrete but the pour couldn't be stopped and they were left dead in the concrete.
 
We understand that many workers died durring this time but the reasons that clearly indicate that it NEVER happened are as follows:
 
#The structural integrity of the concrete would fail with even one body ini it, let alone sixteen.  The bridge would have crumbled and collapsed a long time ago.  The reason for this is that the human body decomposes in concrete and leaves a massive air pocket.  Imagine that there are sixteen such large air pockets.  The bridge pilon would have collapsed after a few years.
#Rebar is used extensively in concrete to provide strength.  This means there is no room for a single body to be submerged in the concrete. Could sixteen bodies have been submerged?  It is impossible.
#This would have been reported in the engineers' report.
 
===Problem #3 - Jack's client is Voice of God Recordings===
 
We talked on the phone with Jack Vissing and are aware that Voice of God Recordings was a client of his.  Would you trust the testimony of a man who was getting paid by the people he was testifying for?


=A Big Question=
=A Big Question=
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*National Register of Historic Places
*National Register of Historic Places
*The Jeffersonville Evening News reported two deaths on its front page on Thursday, June 30, 1929.  One death was Edward Branham, William Branham's brother, who died of rheumatism of the heart.  The second death was Richard Pilton, the first fatality during the construction of the Bridge, who died when an iron crank he was using struck him in the temple.  
*The Jeffersonville Evening News reported two deaths on its front page on Thursday, June 30, 1929.  One death was Edward Branham, William Branham's brother, who died of rheumatism of the heart.  The second death was Richard Pilton, the first fatality during the construction of the Bridge, who died when an iron crank he was using struck him in the temple.  
*[http://searchingforvindication.com/2013/04/06/Summary-Of-Municipal-Bridge/ Summary of historical data on Searching For Vindication]


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