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William Branham believed that when he spoke "Thus saith the Lord" that God was obligated to carry out what William Branham said. | William Branham believed that when he spoke "Thus saith the Lord" that God was obligated to carry out what William Branham said. | ||
:''I prayed for a woman at the platform who had a horrible stomach trouble and couldn't eat nothing. And the Holy Spirit told her, "THUS SAITH THE LORD..." Watch you got your recorders here, if you want to see what He says. Said, "THUS SAITH THE LORD, you're healed of that stomach trouble." | :''I prayed for a woman at the platform who had a horrible stomach trouble and couldn't eat nothing. And '''the Holy Spirit told her, "THUS SAITH THE LORD'''..." Watch you got your recorders here, if you want to see what He says. Said, "THUS SAITH THE LORD, you're healed of that stomach trouble."'' | ||
:''When you hear that come forth, brother, I lay my life right there, it's going to be just that way. I'm forty-five years old, seen visions since I was a baby, and have never seen one time or challenge anybody to mention one time that He ever spoke in that manner, that it didn't come to pass just exactly the way He said it. That's right. Just ask anywhere; take any recordings you want to and find out. When you hear Him speak out like that, that it isn't just exactly that way.<ref>DIVINE.HEALING DES.MOINES.IA 54-0620E</ref> | :'''''When you hear that come forth, brother, I lay my life right there, it's going to be just that way.''' I'm forty-five years old, seen visions since I was a baby, and have never seen one time or '''challenge anybody to mention one time that He ever spoke in that manner, that it didn't come to pass just exactly the way He said it.''' That's right. Just ask anywhere; take any recordings you want to and find out. When you hear Him speak out like that, that it isn't just exactly that way.<ref>DIVINE.HEALING DES.MOINES.IA 54-0620E</ref>'' | ||
=Examples where "Thus Saith The Lord" failed= | |||
There are numerous examples where William Branham stated "Thus Saith The Lord" but it did not come to pass. Here are two examples: | |||
*The Miracle of [[Donny Morton]] | |||
*[[The Story of Agnes Shippy]] | |||
*[[Ed Daulton]] | |||
=The Biblical View= | =The Biblical View= | ||
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==The rules under the old covenant== | ==The rules under the old covenant== | ||
Prophetic signs and miracles were to be ignored if the prophet led the people to other Gods. Such a prophet was to be put to death based on Deut. 13:1-5: | |||
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:''If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,” you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Dt 13:1–5.</ref> | |||
If a prophet spoke in God's name and the prediction was not fulfilled, the prophet was to be killed based on Deut 18:20-22: | |||
:''‘But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, '''is to be put to death.'''” You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” '''If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true''', that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so '''do not be alarmed'''.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Dt 18:20–22.</ref> | |||
Jeremiah said that God was against prophets who plagarized: | |||
:''“I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, ‘I had a dream! I had a dream!’ How long will this continue in the hearts of these lying prophets, who prophesy the delusions of their own minds? They think the dreams they tell one another will make my people forget my name, just as their ancestors forgot my name through Baal worship. Let the prophet who has a dream recount the dream, but let the one who has my word speak it faithfully. For what has straw to do with grain?” declares the LORD. “Is not my word like fire,” declares the LORD, “and like a hammer that breaks a rock in pieces? | |||
:''“I have heard what the prophets say who prophesy lies in my name. They say, ‘I had a dream! I had a dream!’ | :''Therefore,” declares the LORD, “'''I am against the prophets who steal from one another words supposedly from me.''' 31 Yes,” declares the LORD, “I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, ‘The LORD declares.’ 32 Indeed, I am against those who prophesy false dreams,” declares the LORD. “They tell them and lead my people astray with their reckless lies, yet I did not send or appoint them. They do not benefit these people in the least,” declares the LORD.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Je 23:25–32.</ref> | ||
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==The Biblical terms of when "Thus Saith The Lord" can change== | ==The Biblical terms of when "Thus Saith The Lord" can change== | ||
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:''As to the argument that the truths of Christian Science have always been known and practised by a few, Mrs. Eddy issued her direct challenge. In all of her literature she set out the unqualified statement that she was "The Discoverer and the Founder." She was never apologetic; she assumed no modesty she did not feel; she spoke as one having authority, as did Moses of old, "Thus saith the Lord!" <ref>[http://www.web-books.com/Classics/ON/B1/B1509/12MB1509.html ''LITTLE JOURNEYS TO THE HOMES OF GREAT TEACHERS''], BEING VOLUME TEN OF THE SERIES, AS WRITTEN BY ELBERT HUBBARD; EDITED AND ARRANGED BY FRED BANN; BORDERS AND INITIALS BY ROYCROFT ARTISTS, AND PRODUCED BY THE ROYCROFTERS, AT THEIR SHOPS, WHICH ARE IN EAST AURORA, ERIE COUNTY, NEW YORK, MCMXXII </ref> | :''As to the argument that the truths of Christian Science have always been known and practised by a few, Mrs. Eddy issued her direct challenge. In all of her literature she set out the unqualified statement that she was "The Discoverer and the Founder." She was never apologetic; she assumed no modesty she did not feel; she spoke as one having authority, as did Moses of old, "Thus saith the Lord!" <ref>[http://www.web-books.com/Classics/ON/B1/B1509/12MB1509.html ''LITTLE JOURNEYS TO THE HOMES OF GREAT TEACHERS''], BEING VOLUME TEN OF THE SERIES, AS WRITTEN BY ELBERT HUBBARD; EDITED AND ARRANGED BY FRED BANN; BORDERS AND INITIALS BY ROYCROFT ARTISTS, AND PRODUCED BY THE ROYCROFTERS, AT THEIR SHOPS, WHICH ARE IN EAST AURORA, ERIE COUNTY, NEW YORK, MCMXXII </ref> | ||
==Charles Russell (Jehovah Witness Prophet)== | ==Charles Russell (Jehovah Witness Prophet)== | ||
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:''The book of Revelation having the authority of a ‘thus saith the Lord’ states that a Man-child (David Koresh) shall be born in the latter days (our day), see Rev.12:5. The latter day Man-child had within his body the same spirit which was also within Yahshua’s body. The duplicate spirit of Yahshua (for the old testament period) and the spirit of David Koresh (for the new testament period) is the same duplicate spirit of the Archangel Michael. In other words, Yahshua and David Koresh were the Angelic Michael in human form. In the latter days the Man-child’s name (David Koresh) and now the Chosen Vessel’s name (typified by Darius), are the only names whereby salvation may be attained. <ref>[http://branchdavidian.tripod.com/timothy.html BranchDavidian.com]</ref> | :''The book of Revelation having the authority of a ‘thus saith the Lord’ states that a Man-child (David Koresh) shall be born in the latter days (our day), see Rev.12:5. The latter day Man-child had within his body the same spirit which was also within Yahshua’s body. The duplicate spirit of Yahshua (for the old testament period) and the spirit of David Koresh (for the new testament period) is the same duplicate spirit of the Archangel Michael. In other words, Yahshua and David Koresh were the Angelic Michael in human form. In the latter days the Man-child’s name (David Koresh) and now the Chosen Vessel’s name (typified by Darius), are the only names whereby salvation may be attained. <ref>[http://branchdavidian.tripod.com/timothy.html BranchDavidian.com]</ref> | ||
=Quotes= | =Quotes of William Branham= | ||
:''But let me tell you something. A lot of you women tonight would have an awful time doing that; you'd have to stand on your head to do it. Shame on you. The Bible said, "The hair is given to a woman for her glory." '''And the Bible rights gives any man a right to leave and divorce and leave his wife, that'll cut her hair. That's the Bible. That's '''THUS SAITH THE LORD'''.''' Too bad you got away from the old fashion trainings, isn't it?<ref>THE.WORST.SINNER.IN.THE.CITY_ MINNEAPOLIS.MN SATURDAY_ 56-0218E</ref> | :''But let me tell you something. A lot of you women tonight would have an awful time doing that; you'd have to stand on your head to do it. Shame on you. The Bible said, "The hair is given to a woman for her glory." '''And the Bible rights gives any man a right to leave and divorce and leave his wife, that'll cut her hair. That's the Bible. That's '''THUS SAITH THE LORD'''.''' Too bad you got away from the old fashion trainings, isn't it?<ref>THE.WORST.SINNER.IN.THE.CITY_ MINNEAPOLIS.MN SATURDAY_ 56-0218E</ref> | ||
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