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A Message Pastor stood up and asked his Church for approval to give the guitar player some money because he had pawned his guitar and couldn't afford to get it out again. No one raised a hand. Taking the silence as affirmation, the Pastor handed the guitarist $300 cash from the offering plate. Later, | A Message Pastor stood up and asked his Church for approval to give the guitar player some money because he had pawned his guitar and couldn't afford to get it out again. No one raised a hand. Taking the silence as affirmation, the Pastor handed the guitarist $300 cash from the offering plate. Later, in hushed whispers, many express to one another their disapproval. Still, no one confronted the pastor about the folly of giving cash without asking for reasons behind a person’s financial distress. A short time later the guitarist stopped attending services because of alcoholism and drug use. | ||
In another Message Church, a single mother of four approached the Pastor about her financial distress. She had been in an abusive situation | In another Message Church, a single mother of four approached the Pastor about her financial distress. She had been in an abusive situation and had attended the church for years. She needed diapers and food and was humiliated that she had to ask for help. The Pastor went to discuss the situation with a deacon, who gave the woman $20 with the instructions “Here is some money for diapers, but we don’t help charity cases here.” | ||
A third message church had a lot of money that they had saved up. They were doing nothing to fulfill the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19). The pastor wanted to invest some of funds because the money was sitting in the bank earning a low rate of interest. So he found an "investment" that was going to provide a high rate of return and provided collateral to the church for the loan in the form of property. The deacons and trustees approved the transaction, | A third message church had a lot of money that they had saved up. They were doing nothing to fulfill the Great Commission (Matthew 28:19). The pastor wanted to invest some of the funds because the money was sitting in the bank earning a low rate of interest. So he found an "investment" that was going to provide a high rate of return and provided collateral to the church for the loan in the form of property. The deacons and trustees approved the transaction, subject to the church's lawyer ensuring the guarantee of the land was put in place. | ||
A year later, it was discovered that the pastor had invested the money without the guarantee, he had never involved the lawyer, and the church took a $100,000 loss. The pastor stated he would repay the money as between his salary as a pastor, living expense allowance and the trucking business he owned on the side, he was earning close to $300,000 a year. | A year later, it was discovered that the pastor had invested the money without the guarantee, he had never involved the lawyer, and the church took a $100,000 loss. The pastor stated he would repay the money as between his salary as a pastor, living expense allowance and the trucking business he owned on the side, he was earning close to $300,000 a year. | ||
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==What these stories teach us== | ==What these stories teach us== | ||
The Message often claims that it has the ability to “write another book of Acts”, but the Book of Acts says that “All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.” (2:44-45 NIV). What is clear is that the Message is not a continuation of the book of Acts as it claims to be. | The Message often claims that it has the ability to “write another book of Acts”, but the Book of Acts says that “All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.” (2:44-45 NIV). What is clear is that the Message is not a continuation of the book of Acts as it claims to be. | ||
=Dealing with [[Tithing|tithes]] and offerings= | =Dealing with [[Tithing|tithes]] and offerings= | ||
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"''Did I bounce a check?''" I asked. | "''Did I bounce a check?''" I asked. | ||
“''No''”, he replied, “''but the prophet warned the ministry of three things: money, women and popularity. The pastor has a revelation about a fourth one: the government. | “''No''”, he replied, “''but the prophet warned the ministry of three things: money, women and popularity.'' The pastor has a revelation about a fourth one: the government. | ||
This sent up a red flag in my mind, but at the time I didn't dare question the "anointed one" over the congregation. | This sent up a red flag in my mind, but at the time I didn't dare question the "anointed one" over the congregation. | ||
==What these stories teach us== | ==What these stories teach us== | ||
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:''THIS IS A MESSAGE HOME WHERE THE TOKEN IS BEING APPLIED! NO WOMEN WITH BOBBED HAIR, MEN'S APPARREL, MAKE-UP OR IMMODEST CLOTHING ALLOWED. ALSO, NO TV'S OR WORLDLY ENTERTAINMENTS IN THIS HOME IN HONOR OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST AND HIS ENDTIME PROPHET! | :''THIS IS A MESSAGE HOME WHERE THE TOKEN IS BEING APPLIED! NO WOMEN WITH BOBBED HAIR, MEN'S APPARREL, MAKE-UP OR IMMODEST CLOTHING ALLOWED. ALSO, NO TV'S OR WORLDLY ENTERTAINMENTS IN THIS HOME IN HONOR OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST AND HIS ENDTIME PROPHET! | ||
== | ==Disregard for those that are ill== | ||
There was a young boy in our congregation who had bad allergies. Throughout the service, he was blowing his nose. Halfway through very long sermon, the pastor looked down and said, "'''Would someone get him out of the sanctuary?!'''" He said it in an accusatory tone, not a gentle one. No offer to pray for the poor kid. Just an angry demand. The family of the child left less than a year later. The man had been a deacon in the church. | There was a young boy in our congregation who had bad allergies. Throughout the service, he was blowing his nose. Halfway through very long sermon, the pastor looked down and said, "'''Would someone get him out of the sanctuary?!'''" He said it in an accusatory tone, not a gentle one. No offer to pray for the poor kid. Just an angry demand. The family of the child left less than a year later. The man had been a deacon in the church. | ||
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== | ==Blamed for childrens' death== | ||
A pastor blamed my dad for the death of my two brothers because he did not believe the doctrine of the church. A deacon told us there was a curse on our family. When my husband and I starting to have a family, the same deacon told me to make sure we had a lot of children just in case some were taken away. | A pastor blamed my dad for the death of my two brothers because he did not believe the doctrine of the church. A deacon told us there was a curse on our family. When my husband and I starting to have a family, the same deacon told me to make sure we had a lot of children just in case some were taken away. | ||
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==You have to take sides== | ==''You have to take sides!''== | ||
When our church split up, I was the treasurer and a trustee. Eventually one of the ministers put the question to me as to which of the two pastors I was going to support. I naively replied that maybe I would attend both churches. | When our church split up, I was the treasurer and a trustee. Eventually one of the ministers put the question to me as to which of the two pastors I was going to support. I naively replied that maybe I would attend both churches. | ||
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==You need to move== | ==''You need to move!''== | ||
We had always been persecuted because we did not move close to a message church and "be at our post of duty". The worst came directly from a big name preacher. We had attended his church, as often as we could for several months. He had never spoken to us, until one day before service we were standing in the vestibule, and he came up to us and asked us when we were going to move. My husband said " We have jobs, property and a home up there" upon which he said , "I don't care, you move!" Every time my husband tried to speak he simply said "YOU MOVE" over and over, louder and louder...each time felt like a stab to my heart. | We had always been persecuted because we did not move close to a message church and "be at our post of duty". The worst came directly from a big name preacher. We had attended his church, as often as we could for several months. He had never spoken to us, until one day before service we were standing in the vestibule, and he came up to us and asked us when we were going to move. My husband said " We have jobs, property and a home up there" upon which he said , "I don't care, you move!" Every time my husband tried to speak he simply said "YOU MOVE" over and over, louder and louder...each time felt like a stab to my heart. | ||
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{{Bottom of Page | ==''My brother was nicer before he got saved''== | ||
My brother and his wife are in the message and have no regard for other christians who are suffering nor will reach out and help anyone who is not in the message, which includes me. I have needed help and they would help others but seem to have no compassion or love for me. I don't understand it. My brother was very compassionate before he got in the message. He acted nicer when he was not saved than he does now. His thinking is so messed up. He is not the same person. | |||
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==Persecution for liking our Facebook page== | |||
Dear people and Believe the Sign, for the first time since coming out of the Message I was personally told by a cousin and friend that she had deleted me because I had supported this site. She said when I talked about the message I blasphemed the Holy Ghost. My mom has been harassed by family as well but this was the first time I'd experience it myself. | |||
Although I want to be afraid and it was a shock in my heart, I know I'm doing what's right. I am happier, more at peace, and have more faith since this journey or exodus began. I was always afraid of missing the Rapture because of things Branham said, but now I feel I am ready and Jesus is the only one I need to be part of the carrying away of the Bride. Thank God! | |||
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