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A response to Pastor Wisper Gwena: Difference between revisions
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::The explanations we have heard are at best grasping at straws, which is what happens according to cognitive dissonance theory. Have you read Festinger’s landmark study in “When Prophecy Fails”. If not, then I don’t know how you can attempt to speak knowledgeably on the issue of cognitive dissonance. | ::The explanations we have heard are at best grasping at straws, which is what happens according to cognitive dissonance theory. Have you read Festinger’s landmark study in “When Prophecy Fails”. If not, then I don’t know how you can attempt to speak knowledgeably on the issue of cognitive dissonance. | ||
:''Coming to the scripture of God asking Elijah to anoint Hazael and Jehu, again the point in my sermon was for us to learn from scriptural precedent which you try and dismiss as being red herrings. How can scriptural precedent be taken to be red herrings when God says my ways are not your ways? For us to learn the ways of God we have to get into His way of looking at things and not use our ways. We can ONLY learn God’s ways from scriptural precedent. God clearly asked Elijah to anoint Hazael, Jehu and Elisha which we know Elijah died without anointing Jehu. Applying the way you critics of the message would look at things, you would have concluded that Elijah died with a failed vision. In your episode 3 you try to give an explanation saying that Elijah was a ‘disobedient’ prophet but NOT a false prophet. That is your way of trying to defend the bible. As I said earlier, I might not agree with your explanation in defending the bible BUT I agree with the concept and the objective. My point in my sermon was we have a scriptural precedent of things said to a prophet which a prophet does NOT fulfil and yet we still accept him to be a prophet because we know the bible is 100% right. Whether we understand the reason behind Elijah dying before fulfilling what God asked him to do or not, we still defend the bible. We are NOT called to ONLY understand the bible BUT we are called to ONLY believe the bible; by and by we will understand the reasons. SO LET IT BE FOR US WHO BELIEVE THE MESSAGE. | |||
::Your "biblical precedents" ARE red herrings because of the way you use them. Or rather, don't use them. You never state how the fact that some people misunderstand that Abraham's prophecy was actually correct applies to the brown bear vision. Abranham's prophecy was correct. God's instruction to Elijah was not a prophecy, it was a command. The difference is quite easy to see UNLESS you are suffering from cognitive dissonance and then otherwise intelligent people accept things that don't make sense. | |||