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==Jews under the Altar==
The Fifth seal is souls under the altar, slain for the Word of God.  These souls called for judgment, were given white robes, and told to wait while their fellowservants on earth were killed.  
The Fifth seal is souls under the altar, slain for the Word of God.  These souls called for judgment, were given white robes, and told to wait while their fellowservants on earth were killed.  


Because there is no beast (lion, ox, man and eagle), William Branham concludes that the church is raptured at the time of the fifth seal.  He says, ''“These beasts are correct.  It’s THUS SAITH THE LORD. See?”''  Instead, he identifies non-Christian Jews as the souls under the altar, and says that more will be martyred when Rome breaks its covenant with Israel.   
Because there is no beast (lion, ox, man and eagle), William Branham concludes that the church is raptured at the time of the fifth seal.  He says, ''“These beasts are correct.  It’s THUS SAITH THE LORD. See?”''  Instead, he identifies non-Christian Jews as the souls under the altar, and says that more will be martyred when Rome breaks its covenant with Israel.   
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==Christians under the Altar==
William Branham then tells a story of how he went to a heavenly place, and saw his own converts under the altar:
William Branham then tells a story of how he went to a heavenly place, and saw his own converts under the altar:
:’’Tells of the white-robed saints in “that heavenly place” that he saw in a vision.  But Jessu was not there!  It was a mixture of purgatory, and souls under the altar.  “I want to see Jesus…You can’t see him now, He is still higher….You mean, by being a leader, that He’ll judge me?  Said, “Yes” I said, “what about Paul?”  He said, “He’ll have to be judged with his.” “Well” I said, if his group goes in, so will mine, ‘cause I’ve preached exactly the same Word.”…and millions screamed out, all at once, said, “We’re resting on that!” …See, we was right under the altar.”
:’’Tells of the white-robed saints in “that heavenly place” that he saw in a vision.  But Jessu was not there!  It was a mixture of purgatory, and souls under the altar.  “I want to see Jesus…You can’t see him now, He is still higher….You mean, by being a leader, that He’ll judge me?  Said, “Yes” I said, “what about Paul?”  He said, “He’ll have to be judged with his.” “Well” I said, if his group goes in, so will mine, ‘cause I’ve preached exactly the same Word.”…and millions screamed out, all at once, said, “We’re resting on that!” …See, we was right under the altar.”
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The most notable person absent from this place was Jesus, making “that heavenly place” a waiting place, or purgatory, while the people wait for William Branham to be judged.   
The most notable person absent from this place was Jesus, making “that heavenly place” a waiting place, or purgatory, while the people wait for William Branham to be judged.   


But later in the sermon William Branham backtracks and tries to differentiate between the two altars:   
==It must have been another altar?==
Later in the sermon William Branham talks about two altars in heaven, so diffuse the confusion between the Jews and his followers:   
:''“The Bride, she was not under the martyrs’ block, not, the sacrifice altar of the martyrs; but had received white robes, by accepting the pardoning grace of the living Word.”''
:''“The Bride, she was not under the martyrs’ block, not, the sacrifice altar of the martyrs; but had received white robes, by accepting the pardoning grace of the living Word.”''


What William Branham does with this statement is commit some major errors:
What William Branham does with this statement is commit some major errors:
#He ignores the fact that Revelation 6:9 says that the souls were under “THE” altar (there is only one).  
#He ignores the fact that Revelation 6:9 says that the souls were under “THE” altar (there is only one altar mentioned in this scripture, and a 'martyr's altar' is never mentioned in scriptures).  
#He ignores the fact that there were many Christian martyrs, and that the Bride will include many people who were martyred, and who were not martyred.   
#He ignores the fact that there were many Christian martyrs, and that the Bride will include many people who were martyred.   
#He ignores that he says that the souls were Jews, and  
#He ignores what he previously said about the souls being Jews, and  
#He refers to the “pardoning grace of the living Word”.  One night prior, he had called his own words “spirit and life” as evidenced by his ability to create squirrels (though no-one was around to witness this).  That means he is making his own words the door to pardoning grace.  
#He refers to the “pardoning grace of the living Word”.  Just one night prior he had called his own words “spirit and life” as evidenced by his ability to create squirrels (though no-one was around to witness this).  That means he is making his own words the door to pardoning grace.  
 
==Jesus' Warning of False Prophets==
In this sermon William Branham ties Jesus’ warning about “False Prophets” to the time after the rapture.  As such, this scripture naturally does not apply to him. 


In this sermon William Branham ties Jesus’ warning about “False Prophets” to the time after the rapture.  As such, this scripture naturally does not apply to him.  William Branham also tells a story about Joseph giving his brothers white robes in this sermon.  It is likely from this story that some Message Believers think that Moses and Elijah will arise and translate the sermon of the Seven Seals into Hebrew after the rapture.  So, perhaps his message really is one of the false ministries to watch for.   
William Branham also tells a story about Joseph giving his brothers white robes in this sermon.  It is likely from this story that some Message Believers think that Moses and Elijah will arise and translate the sermon of the Seven Seals into Hebrew after the rapture.  So, perhaps his message really is one of the false ministries to watch for.   


==Other controversial comments==
William Branham also makes some off-topic statements during this sermon that are very strange:
William Branham also makes some off-topic statements during this sermon that are very strange:
#He reveals that he is a Mason talking to other Masons in the crowd: “You Masons, I’ll call your attention.  You remember the sign of the cross?  Now you – you know what I’m talking about. “
#He talks secretly to the [http://en.believethesign.com/index.php/Was_William_Branham_a_racist%3F#KKK Masons in the crowd] when he says, “You Masons, I’ll call your attention.  You remember the sign of the cross?  Now you – you know what I’m talking about.“  
#He brings out a non-Biblical doctrine that Moses resurrected.  “Moses actually died.  But he rose, ‘ cause he was a perfect type of Christ. ”
#He brings out a non-Biblical doctrine that Moses resurrected.  “Moses actually died.  But he rose, ‘ cause he was a perfect type of Christ. ”
#He denies that his vision of heaven was like the Mormon version of Soul Sleep.   
#He denies that his vision of heaven was like the Mormon version of Soul Sleep.   
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==Quotes and Questions==
==Quotes and Questions==
*'''William Branham tells that he understood the Fifth Seal that morning: ''“Today, not knowing one thing about that Fifth Seal, It came in that same mysterious way, this morning, just about an hour before daybreak.”''
*William Branham tells that he understood the Fifth Seal that morning: '''''“Today, not knowing one thing about that Fifth Seal, It came in that same mysterious way, this morning, just about an hour before daybreak.”''
*'''Then he asks God to break the Fifth Seal that evening: ''“O Lamb of God, come forward, we pray.  We call on You, Lord, the great Redeemer.  Come forth and show us Your plan of redemption that’s been hid through the years, breaking this Fifth Seal for us tonight, Father.”''
*Then he asks God to break the Fifth Seal that evening: '''''“O Lamb of God, come forward, we pray.  We call on You, Lord, the great Redeemer.  Come forth and show us Your plan of redemption that’s been hid through the years, breaking this Fifth Seal for us tonight, Father.”''
**Why did he ask God to break the Seal when he already knew what he was going to say?   
**Why did he ask God to break the Seal when he already knew what he was going to say?   
**Why are the Seals God’s plan of redemption, when Jesus already redeemed us on the cross?   
**Why are the Seals God’s plan of redemption, when Jesus already redeemed us on the cross?