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God told Jeremiah:
God told Jeremiah:


:''At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to uproot, to pull down, or to destroy it; if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it.'' Jeremiah 18:7–8 (NASB95)
:''At one moment I might speak concerning a nation or concerning a kingdom to uproot, to pull down, or to destroy it; if that nation against which I have spoken turns from its evil, I will relent concerning the calamity I planned to bring on it.''<ref>Jeremiah 18:7–8 (NASB95)</ref>


So God has clearly outlined the conditions under which a "Thus Saith The Lord" prophecy will not come to pass.  But those conditions do not apply to ANY of William Branham's failed prophesies.
So God has clearly outlined the conditions under which a "Thus Saith The Lord" prophecy will not come to pass.  But those conditions do not apply to ANY of William Branham's failed prophesies.
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[[The Municipal Bridge Vision]] involves a vision which William Branham said was fulfilled.  The problem is that it was not fulfilled.  How can you compare that with Jonah and Nineveh?
[[The Municipal Bridge Vision]] involves a vision which William Branham said was fulfilled.  The problem is that it was not fulfilled.  How can you compare that with Jonah and Nineveh?


The real problem, '''the Biblical problem''', with William Branham's unfulfilled visions is Deuteronomy 18:22.
The real problem, '''the Biblical problem''', with William Branham's unfulfilled visions is Deuteronomy 18:20-22.


:''When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.'' Deut 18:22(NASB)
:''But the prophet who speaks a word '''presumptuously''' in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, '''that prophet shall die'''.’  You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’  When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, '''if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.'''''<ref>Deut 18:22(NASB)</ref>


William Branham agreed with this being the Biblical standard.
William Branham agreed with this being the Biblical standard.


:''But we both know that the visions God gives me NEVER FAIL. NOT ONCE. If anyone can prove a vision ever failed I want to know about it. Now that you follow me this far here is my story.''
:''But we both know that the visions God gives me NEVER FAIL. NOT ONCE. If anyone can prove a vision ever failed I want to know about it. Now that you follow me this far here is my story.''<ref>PERGAMEAN CHURCH AGE - CHURCH AGE BOOK CPT 5</ref>
:::PERGAMEAN CHURCH AGE - CHURCH AGE BOOK CPT 5


:''"If there be a prophet among you, or one who professes to be, and what he says doesn't come to pass, then don't you fear him. It's not right. But if the Lord has spoke to him, He will bring it to pass." See? That's the way you will know it. God give us instructions whether to know. Where we don't have to presume anything, nothing. You don't have to just imagine; you can have an experience to know it. Yes, sir.''  
:''"If there be a prophet among you, or one who professes to be, and what he says doesn't come to pass, then don't you fear him. It's not right. But if the Lord has spoke to him, He will bring it to pass." See? That's the way you will know it. God give us instructions whether to know. Where we don't have to presume anything, nothing. You don't have to just imagine; you can have an experience to know it. Yes, sir.''<ref>PRESUMING PHOENIX.AZ  WEDNESDAY 62-0117</ref>
:::PRESUMING PHOENIX.AZ  WEDNESDAY 62-0117


:''He said here was the test of a prophet: if a prophet prophesied, and that what he said come to pass, then hear him. But if it don't come to pass, then God hasn't spoke. That's all. So don't--don't fear him. That's right. "If there be one among you who's spiritual or a prophet, I, the Lord God, will make myself known unto him in visions, speak to him in dreams. And if it comes to pass, then I--that's Me speaking." Sure, God ain't going to lie. You know He can't lie there's nothing in Him to lie. He's the Fountain of all purity, all truth, is God. So it can't be a lie come from God. He's perfect, pure.''
:''He said here was the test of a prophet: if a prophet prophesied, and that what he said come to pass, then hear him. But if it don't come to pass, then God hasn't spoke. That's all. So don't--don't fear him. That's right. "If there be one among you who's spiritual or a prophet, I, the Lord God, will make myself known unto him in visions, speak to him in dreams. And if it comes to pass, then I--that's Me speaking." Sure, God ain't going to lie. You know He can't lie there's nothing in Him to lie. He's the Fountain of all purity, all truth, is God. So it can't be a lie come from God. He's perfect, pure.''<ref>THE SIGNS OF HIS COMING CLEVELAND TN  SATURDAY 62-0407</ref>
:::THE SIGNS OF HIS COMING CLEVELAND TN  SATURDAY 62-0407


==Why a Comparison to William Branham's Failed Prophecies is a Smokescreen==
==Why a Comparison to William Branham's Failed Prophecies is a Smokescreen==