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The September 2020 Debate - Part 5: Difference between revisions
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Jay Cox: And you have five minutes, brother Smith. | Jay Cox: And you have five minutes, brother Smith. | ||
Jesse Smith: Okay. Thank you. First of all, I'll say not all of Brother Branham's teachings were from God, as far as I understand. In "He cares. Do you care?" ,1963, brother Branham said always be careful what you're listening to. He said so much of it is the human side, but ever if it will speak it from the Lord, it'll speak it thus saith the Lord. Now from my listening to brother Branham, I've never heard brother Branham say you were lost if you didn't follow the messenger of your day. So brother Rod, maybe you can look that quote up for me. Please share that with me. | Jesse Smith: Okay. Thank you. First of all, I'll say not all of Brother Branham's teachings were from God, as far as I understand. In "He cares. Do you care?", 1963, brother Branham said always be careful what you're listening to. He said so much of it is the human side, but ever if it will speak it from the Lord, it'll speak it thus saith the Lord. Now from my listening to brother Branham, I've never heard brother Branham say you were lost if you didn't follow the messenger of your day. So brother Rod, maybe you can look that quote up for me. Please share that with me. | ||
Rod Bergen: I will. | Rod Bergen: I will. | ||
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He said, yes. If they believe the Lord. He said, if they disagree with me, he said, that shows where they're headed for, perhaps the tribulation, if they disagree with the baptism of the Holy Ghost. He said, but those who can [00:02:00] accept the word in its fullness, not me preaching it, but because the Bible says so. So brother Branham never put it on him. | He said, yes. If they believe the Lord. He said, if they disagree with me, he said, that shows where they're headed for, perhaps the tribulation, if they disagree with the baptism of the Holy Ghost. He said, but those who can [00:02:00] accept the word in its fullness, not me preaching it, but because the Bible says so. So brother Branham never put it on him. | ||
He was just the messenger of the message. Jesus Christ, revelation for the end time. | He was just the messenger of the message. Jesus Christ, revelation for the end time. | ||
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Jesse Smith: Okay. Again with this Brother, rod, I take everything Brother. | Jesse Smith: Okay. Again with this Brother, rod, I take everything Brother. | ||
Branham's said back to the word. When brother Branham said in 1965, | Branham's said back to the word. When brother Branham said in 1965, they're lost Trinitarians, it wasn't thus saith the [00:09:00] Lord. There's no scripture that says someone's lost for being a Trinitarian. And he never said that's thus say the Lord. brother Branham was a very dogmatic person. He said he was more dogmatic than Brother Neville . | ||
He said, there's dogmatic. There's nice. There's kind people. He was very dogmatic and he was very convinced. He was right many times, but we got to take everything he said back to scripture. I'll have to look up that all believe the messenger pear or that didn't believe, perished. I'm not familiar with that one. | He said, there's dogmatic. There's nice. There's kind people. He was very dogmatic and he was very convinced. He was right many times, but we got to take everything he said back to scripture. I'll have to look up that all believe the messenger pear or that didn't believe, perished. I'm not familiar with that one. | ||
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Rod Bergen: God doesn't need my help. And he doesn't need William Branham's help. | Rod Bergen: God doesn't need my help. And he doesn't need William Branham's help. | ||
There's no way that I would ever follow man who would fake something like that. As Frederick Nietzsche wrote, "I am not upset that you lied to [00:20:00] me. I'm upset that from now on, I can't believe you. | There's no way that I would ever follow man who would fake something like that. As Frederick Nietzsche wrote, "I am not upset that you lied to [00:20:00] me. I'm upset that from now on, I can't believe you." | ||
I could keep going on with examples. I can't believe William Branham anymore. He was not a prophet. He lied. | I could keep going on with examples. I can't believe William Branham anymore. He was not a prophet. He lied. | ||