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Lee Vayle taught a number of controversial doctrines including the ''Parousia doctrine'', the denial of the deity of Jesus Christ and espousing [[Jesus Christ#Some of Branham's followers carry his teaching into Adoptionism|Adoptionism]] (also referred to as [[Dynamic Monarchianism]]). | Lee Vayle taught a number of controversial doctrines including the ''Parousia doctrine'', the denial of the deity of Jesus Christ and espousing [[Jesus Christ#Some of Branham's followers carry his teaching into Adoptionism|Adoptionism]] (also referred to as [[Dynamic Monarchianism]]). | ||
=Denial of the Deity of Christ= | =Did Lee Vayle have a Ph.D?= | ||
One of our colleagues wrote to Lee Vayle a number of years ago, and got this reply from his assistant: | |||
:Brother Vayle only attended post high school for about 6 weeks at the age of 18 years old. He attended a Baptist Bible college and proceeded to get kicked out for teaching the young men to speak in tongues. He received his doctor tag from Brother Branham who said Br. Vayle was an profound teacher and began introducing him as Doctor Lee Vayle. Who better to give him the title of Doctor, than the prophet of our day?" | |||
=Lee Vayle's doctrines= | |||
Lee Vayle became widely known in message circles for preaching heretical doctrines and destroying what little unity there was in the message by creating a special group within the message (who already thought that they were a special group). | |||
==Denial of the Deity of Christ== | |||
:''...the church has made '''the great mistake in making Jesus equal to God''' — which he is in a certain way — '''but he’s not God. He’s not Deity'''. I’m sorry, but he’s not, because God is not in him. No way. What God was in him is not Deity, same as what God is in you is not Deity, concerning Deity Himself, which is Sovereign God and Creator and Maintainer.''<ref>Lee Vayle, Godhead Q&A #4: Tangibility of God, 11-05-2000 </ref> | :''...the church has made '''the great mistake in making Jesus equal to God''' — which he is in a certain way — '''but he’s not God. He’s not Deity'''. I’m sorry, but he’s not, because God is not in him. No way. What God was in him is not Deity, same as what God is in you is not Deity, concerning Deity Himself, which is Sovereign God and Creator and Maintainer.''<ref>Lee Vayle, Godhead Q&A #4: Tangibility of God, 11-05-2000 </ref> | ||
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:''And It places it right there that '''Jesus is not God'''. See? I’ll tell you: I believe calling Jesus ‘Deity’, which we’ve had people here do that, is an entire misunderstanding or no understanding of Seed: that God is the Father, the Progenitor, the Author, the All in all of a race of His Own children, genetically, legitimately, spiritually, physically, every single way. God is not our Creator; He is our Father; He is our Source; He is our Progenitor. Call it what you want. Out of the Great Fountain, God, came every one of His sons, and nothing else came from that Lifeline, because the Bible says, “In him was life.”<ref>Lee Vayle, Godhead #14: The Man, Jesus Christ, Is Not Deity, August 6, 2000</ref> | :''And It places it right there that '''Jesus is not God'''. See? I’ll tell you: I believe calling Jesus ‘Deity’, which we’ve had people here do that, is an entire misunderstanding or no understanding of Seed: that God is the Father, the Progenitor, the Author, the All in all of a race of His Own children, genetically, legitimately, spiritually, physically, every single way. God is not our Creator; He is our Father; He is our Source; He is our Progenitor. Call it what you want. Out of the Great Fountain, God, came every one of His sons, and nothing else came from that Lifeline, because the Bible says, “In him was life.”<ref>Lee Vayle, Godhead #14: The Man, Jesus Christ, Is Not Deity, August 6, 2000</ref> | ||
=General vulgarity= | ==General vulgarity== | ||
Lee Vayle was often quite vulgar in his sermons: | Lee Vayle was often quite vulgar in his sermons: | ||
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:''Christ came on with the same story. Let them know they circumnavigated the whole globe with their dirty, rotten, filthy lies and tricks to make them more two-fold child of hell than themselves. Let me tell you: this age goes down with a seven-more-fold child of hell than the first age, because the cup of iniquity is full, you see. I'm not mad. I'm just telling you. I'm no judgment teacher. I'm just preaching the Word of God. You do what you want with it.<ref>Lee Vayle, Rapture, September 25th, 1983</ref> | :''Christ came on with the same story. Let them know they circumnavigated the whole globe with their dirty, rotten, filthy lies and tricks to make them more two-fold child of hell than themselves. Let me tell you: this age goes down with a seven-more-fold child of hell than the first age, because the cup of iniquity is full, you see. I'm not mad. I'm just telling you. I'm no judgment teacher. I'm just preaching the Word of God. You do what you want with it.<ref>Lee Vayle, Rapture, September 25th, 1983</ref> | ||
==Paul was not a Christian== | |||
"Now Bro. Vayle you can't tell a book by its cover." I got news for you; you can if the prophet said so! That's 'THUS SAITH THE LORD'! Not some jackass idiot philosopher that pawns himself as an erudite educationist, thereby thinks he's spiritual... spiritual my foot. | |||
“Bro. Branham distinctly said, "Sometimes Jesus was talking, and sometimes the Father was talking in him!" Huh? Huh? Huh? They're like a stupid seal trying to get the smell of fish and get someone to hand them a fish. What is the greatest revelation under the Seventh Seal? It sounds pretty pitiful doesn't it? Huh? It sounds pretty sick. Surely there should be something greater than that. But there isn't. He said, ‘We are not Trinitarian, we are not Oneness, neither do we believe in two gods.’” | |||
“I know a lot of people claim it, and they haven't got it, because they just don't have it, Lord. They don't have You, they don't have the end time revelation. They talk about Paul and they don't have him. '''Paul was lost in the first century'''; they don't even believe it. Another gospel, another Jesus, another spirit, they don't believe it. They can't. They simply believe that they're fine. But Lord we know it isn't true; eight people made the ark.”<ref>December 3, 1994, “Watch the Woman”</ref> | |||
=Current status of Vaylism= | =Current status of Vaylism= | ||