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So then, Mr. Jorgenson’s thesis can be stated:  William Branham was a teacher sent from God because he performed similar miracles in Jesus’ name.  All of Mr. Jorgenson’s ensuing points assume his thesis is true, and then seeks to place William Branham squarely within its parameters, namely:
So then, Mr. Jorgenson’s thesis can be stated:  William Branham was a teacher sent from God because he performed similar miracles in Jesus’ name.  All of Mr. Jorgenson’s ensuing points assume his thesis is true, and then seeks to place William Branham squarely within its parameters, namely:


1. The most important question one must ask is HOW did he do it? (discernment & healing.)
#The most important question one must ask is HOW did he do it? (discernment & healing.)
2. The critics’ natural and supernatural theories for HOW he did it can all be refuted.  
#The critics’ natural and supernatural theories for HOW he did it can all be refuted.  
3. Therefore the miracles were authentically supernatural, and of God.
#Therefore the miracles were authentically supernatural, and of God.
4. God wouldn’t allow him such divine gifts, while teaching false doctrine.
#God wouldn't allow him such divine gifts, while teaching false doctrine.
5. Therefore, his teaching was true.
#Therefore, his teaching was true.
6. Therefore, William Branham was clearly vindicated of God and one should confidently follow him and his teaching.
#Therefore, William Branham was clearly vindicated of God and one should confidently follow him and his teaching.


*Mr. Jorgenson also inserts a couple of stray points [for example, that William Branham fulfilled various scriptures] which do not fit within the scope of  his thesis, and which he doesn’t even attempt to support biblically or factually. For brevity and clarity, I will not be addressing those points.
Mr. Jorgenson also inserts a couple of stray points [for example, that William Branham fulfilled various scriptures] which do not fit within the scope of  his thesis, and which he doesn’t even attempt to support biblically or factually. For brevity and clarity, I will not be addressing those points.
Inspecting the Foundation
Inspecting the Foundation


Mr. Jorgenson’s presentation of “one very basic idea” seeks to establish a clear scriptural correlation between Nicodemus’ recognition of Jesus as a teacher sent from God and our recognition of William Branham as a teacher sent from God.  
Mr. Jorgenson’s presentation of “one very basic idea” seeks to establish a clear scriptural correlation between Nicodemus’ recognition of Jesus as a teacher sent from God and our recognition of William Branham as a teacher sent from God.  
==A scriptural basis?==
Before we explore the merits of this correlation, please read the biblical passage that contains his thesis, (John 3:1-21):
Before we explore the merits of this correlation, please read the biblical passage that contains his thesis, (John 3:1-21):


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Verse 3 (underlined), is clearly the foundation for Owen Jorgenson’s defense of William Branham. Why then, would I insert the first twenty one verses of the chapter? To illustrate the first flaw in this defense: extracting an isolated verse from its context in order to serve some purpose other than that intended by its author. Even a casual reading of this passage reveals that John’s inclusion of this conversation has little —if anything—to do with Nicodemus’ observation. Jesus not only fails to affirm Nicodemus for his recognition of signs and wonders, but ignores his statement altogether, choosing instead to instruct Nicodemus on the importance of the new birth and gives a beautiful description of the gospel.  
Verse 3 (underlined), is clearly the foundation for Owen Jorgenson’s defense of William Branham. Why then, would I insert the first twenty one verses of the chapter? To illustrate the first flaw in this defense: extracting an isolated verse from its context in order to serve some purpose other than that intended by its author. Even a casual reading of this passage reveals that John’s inclusion of this conversation has little —if anything—to do with Nicodemus’ observation. Jesus not only fails to affirm Nicodemus for his recognition of signs and wonders, but ignores his statement altogether, choosing instead to instruct Nicodemus on the importance of the new birth and gives a beautiful description of the gospel.  


The four gospels are written in typical ancient Greco-Roman biographical style. They were divinely inspired to leave us with a historical account of the life of Jesus. Unless specifically affirmed by Jesus, there is simply no biblical warrant for taking the recorded words from some other character in these accounts and attempting to draw some sort prophetic insight or profound truism from them. To base an entire defense of a man’s ministry on a single sentence from the mouth of Nicodemus— a sentence which has little bearing even on the passage in which it is contained—makes for a razor thin biblical foundation.  This type of scriptural interpretation is reckless and inevitably leads to error, as it does here.
The four gospels are written in typical ancient Greco-Roman biographical style. They were divinely inspired to leave us with a historical account of the life of Jesus. Unless specifically affirmed by Jesus, there is simply no biblical warrant for taking the recorded words from some other character in these accounts and attempting to draw some sort prophetic insight or profound truism from them. To base an entire defense of a man’s ministry on a single sentence from the mouth of Nicodemus — a sentence which has little bearing even on the passage in which it is contained — makes for a razor thin biblical foundation.  This type of scriptural interpretation is reckless and inevitably leads to error, as it does here.
   
   
Despite this flawed use of scripture, I am certainly prepared to accept the premise that Jesus did indeed perform many signs and wonders, and that Nicodemus recognized that God was with him. So then, is that compelling enough to infer that if William Branham also performed signs and wonders in Jesus name, then God is also with him? And if that is true within the context of physical healing, then is that also enough to infer correct teaching? And if so, is it then also enough to vindicate any and all claims he (or others) may have made?
Despite this flawed use of scripture, I am certainly prepared to accept the premise that Jesus did indeed perform many signs and wonders, and that Nicodemus recognized that God was with him. So then, is that compelling enough to infer that if William Branham also performed signs and wonders in Jesus name, then God is also with him? And if that is true within the context of physical healing, then is that also enough to infer correct teaching? And if so, is it then also enough to vindicate any and all claims he (or others) may have made?
==But what else does the Bible say?==
There is no better way to answer these questions, than to turn to the very words of Jesus in the book of Matthew:
There is no better way to answer these questions, than to turn to the very words of Jesus in the book of Matthew:
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Please note that these scriptures do not necessarily indicate that William Branham falls within these categories, nor is it my intent to imply as much, but they do necessarily show the complete disconnect between Mr. Jorgenson’s thesis and the actual teaching of scripture. These passages not only show that his core argument is seriously flawed, but also specifically address one of Mr. Jorgenson’s supporting points, which was that Satan would not sanction anyone performing miracles for the expressed purpose of lifting up Jesus.  In Matthew 7, Jesus deals directly with this false assumption, going so far as to say that many would call him Lord and point to prophecies, exorcisms, and other mighty works they had performed  in the name of Jesus! And as William Branham himself pointed out, Jesus didn’t contest their claims, or call them liars. By Owen Jorgenson’s reasoning, all of these men would have been recognized as vindicated servants of God. Remember his thesis sentence?  
Please note that these scriptures do not necessarily indicate that William Branham falls within these categories, nor is it my intent to imply as much, but they do necessarily show the complete disconnect between Mr. Jorgenson’s thesis and the actual teaching of scripture. These passages not only show that his core argument is seriously flawed, but also specifically address one of Mr. Jorgenson’s supporting points, which was that Satan would not sanction anyone performing miracles for the expressed purpose of lifting up Jesus.  In Matthew 7, Jesus deals directly with this false assumption, going so far as to say that many would call him Lord and point to prophecies, exorcisms, and other mighty works they had performed  in the name of Jesus! And as William Branham himself pointed out, Jesus didn’t contest their claims, or call them liars. By Owen Jorgenson’s reasoning, all of these men would have been recognized as vindicated servants of God. Remember his thesis sentence?  


Nicodemus said to Jesus, “We know you are a teacher sent from God because no man could do these things unless God was with him.” If that was true for Jesus, why wouldn’t it be true for someone else who did similar miracles in Jesus’ name?”
Nicodemus said to Jesus, “We know you are a teacher sent from God because no man could do these things unless God was with him.” If that was true for Jesus, why wouldn't it be true for someone else who did similar miracles in Jesus’ name?”
 
==A false measuring stick?==


Well, why wouldn’t it be true? The clear answer is: because the bible does not leave room for such a measuring stick.  Countless times, I have heard some form of the argument that the miracles were just too compelling, and nobody could do what Bro. Branham could do, etc. Not only does the bible render that correlation irrelevant as it relates to his ministry, his position, and the very existence of a group called The Message—distinct and separate from the overall body of born-again Christians—but it appears that William Branham himself also disagreed with this reasoning:
Well, why wouldn't it be true? The clear answer is: because the bible does not leave room for such a measuring stick.  Countless times, I have heard some form of the argument that the miracles were just too compelling, and nobody could do what Bro. Branham could do, etc. Not only does the bible render that correlation irrelevant as it relates to his ministry, his position, and the very existence of a group called The Message—distinct and separate from the overall body of born-again Christians—but it appears that William Branham himself also disagreed with this reasoning:


214 A lot of people are trying to say, "Oh, this is a great man of God. You ought to see the great miracles." Why, devils heal—devils go out and perform things like that. I know witches that goes out and things like that, has a apron around her like that, and they put money in; she takes hair out of the back of her head, winds it in blood and throws it in… And them people are, honest people are believing… It's not that man; it's them people believing they're approaching God through the witch.
A lot of people are trying to say, "Oh, this is a great man of God. You ought to see the great miracles." Why, devils heal—devils go out and perform things like that. I know witches that goes out and things like that, has a apron around her like that, and they put money in; she takes hair out of the back of her head, winds it in blood and throws it in… And them people are, honest people are believing… It's not that man; it's them people believing they're approaching God through the witch.


:''Didn't Jesus say, "Many will come to Me in that day and say, 'I've had great healing campaigns'"? That's not a sign. It's a sign we're at the end. Didn't Jesus say in Matthew the 24th chapter about the 24th verse too, 24:24… And He said, "False prophets will rise in the last days and show great signs insomuch that they would deceive the very elected if it was possible." But the elected is standing on the Word. They know what a true sign is.<ref> "A True Sign That's Overlooked" -William M. Branham, 1961</ref>
:''Didn't Jesus say, "Many will come to Me in that day and say, 'I've had great healing campaigns'"? That's not a sign. It's a sign we're at the end. Didn't Jesus say in Matthew the 24th chapter about the 24th verse too, 24:24… And He said, "False prophets will rise in the last days and show great signs insomuch that they would deceive the very elected if it was possible." But the elected is standing on the Word. They know what a true sign is.<ref> "A True Sign That's Overlooked" -William M. Branham, 1961</ref>
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=Further Considerations=
=Further Considerations=


As the core thesis, and therefore, the entire foundation of Mr. Jorgenson’s argument is demonstrably false, it is not necessary to address each of his points individually. To do so lends credibility to a theory that has been thoroughly debunked. In addition, each of his supporting points —as I have shown in the opening segment—aren’t really supporting points at all, as each assumes his thesis is valid, and then each subsequent point assumes the one before, in succession. Consequently, debunking the thesis is tantamount to pulling out the bottom block in the stack. It all comes crashing down. Nevertheless, there are a few salient points worth making, outside of his core argument.
As the core thesis, and therefore, the entire foundation of Mr. Jorgenson’s argument is demonstrably false, it is not necessary to address each of his points individually. To do so lends credibility to a theory that has been thoroughly debunked. In addition, each of his supporting points — as I have shown in the opening segment — aren’t really supporting points at all, as each assumes his thesis is valid, and then each subsequent point assumes the one before, in succession. Consequently, debunking the thesis is tantamount to pulling out the bottom block in the stack. It all comes crashing down. Nevertheless, there are a few salient points worth making, outside of his core argument.
 
==Should we follow every faith healer?==
 
1. Mr. Jorgenson asserted a number of times that the most important question one can ask regarding William Brahnam’s ministry  is How did he do it?(the miraculous)  Much of the content of his essay is dedicated to debunking critics’ answers to that question. It should now be clear that this is certainly not the most important question to ask regarding William Branham. If it were, then we would be required to ask the same of every faith healer, and then be compelled to follow them.. all of them! What if their teachings are contradictory one to another? '''Do you see the quandary?''' 
 
In light of Jesus’ warnings, it becomes largely irrelevant how he did it. 
 
'''The most important question to ask regarding William Branham is: Are the claims made about him biblically supported and true?'''  Is he Elijah the prophet? The 7th angel? The Laodicean messenger? Am I supposed to be looking for any of those things? All of them? Do they all represent the same person? ..or a person at all?  It is utterly disingenuous to claim that “he never said those things about himself.”
 
The truth of the matter is, without those claims, there is no Message of The Hour. So either he is… or he isn’t. How do you answer that question? With Biblical answers, the particulars of which are beyond the scope of this response, though I would be happy to engage in that discussion, one that I feel is far more relevant than the current exchange.
 
==Are any of William Branham's teachings harmful?==


1. Mr. Jorgenson asserted a number of times that the most important question one can ask regarding William Brahnam’s ministry  is How did he do it?(the miraculous)  Much of the content of his essay is dedicated to debunking critics’ answers to that question. It should now be clear that this is certainly not the most important question to ask regarding William Branham. If it were, then we would be required to ask the same of every faith healer, and then be compelled to follow them.. all of them! What if their teachings are contradictory one to another? You see the quandary?  In light of Jesus’ warnings, it becomes largely irrelevant how he did it. The most important question to ask regarding William Branham is: Are the claims made about him biblically supported and true?  Is he Elijah the prophet? The 7th angel? The Laodicean messenger? Am I supposed to be looking for any of those things? All of them? Do they all represent the same person? ..or a person at all?  It is utterly disingenuous to claim that “he never said those things about himself.” The truth of the matter is, without those claims, there is no Message of The Hour. So either he is… or he isn’t. How do you answer that question? With Biblical answers, the particulars of which are beyond the scope of this response, though I would be happy to engage in that discussion, one that I feel is far more relevant than the current exchange.
Mr.Jorgenson asked the question: “What did Br. Branham teach that would harm someone’s soul?” That is an important question, the answers to which would require a separate treatment, if not a book in itself. The answers to that question also adequately answer the important questions I highlighted above. So ask yourself: Did he preach what Paul preached? Don’t take anyone’s word for it. Read your Bible with an honest heart, and see for yourself. Did he point only to Jesus, or to himself? Does his teaching line up with scripture? I would be happy to discuss these vitally important questions with anyone willing to do so.


2. Mr.Jorgenson asked the question: “What did Br. Branham teach that would harm someone’s soul?” That is an important question, the answers to which would require a separate treatment, if not a book in itself. The answers to that question also adequately answer the important questions I highlighted above. So ask yourself: Did he preach what Paul preached? Don’t take anyone’s word for it. Read your Bible with an honest heart, and see for yourself. Did he point only to Jesus, or to himself? Does his teaching line up with scripture? I would be happy to discuss these vitally important questions with anyone willing to do so.
==What about Jorgensen's biography of William Branham?==


3. I would be remiss if I did not also point out again that Mr. Jorgenson wrote Supernatural: The Life of William Branham. This book has been offered by himself and many others as a biography of William Branham’s life. Yet a very large portion of the facts and events contained therein have since been proven inaccurate, misleading, or even outright fiction. As an author, it is not a crime to write about the life of a man you greatly admire, or even to transcribe the events of his life in accordance with the testimony of the man about whom you are writing. But when the book is marketed and described as a “biography” resulting from twenty five years of research, the standard is —and should be—much higher for factual verification. The result in this case brings one to an unfortunate choice to make about Mr. Jorgenson’s book: 1. Either he was aware of the mountain of “facts” that cannot be made to fit, and chose to ignore them, or 2. He was simply unaware of them. The first option calls into question Mr. Jorgenson’s integrity and reliability as a biographer, the second reveals a stark absence of meaningful research.  
I would be remiss if I did not also point out again that Mr. Jorgenson wrote Supernatural: The Life of William Branham. This book has been offered by himself and many others as a biography of William Branham’s life. Yet a very large portion of the facts and events contained therein have since been proven inaccurate, misleading, or even outright fiction.  


As an author, it is not a crime to write about the life of a man you greatly admire, or even to transcribe the events of his life in accordance with the testimony of the man about whom you are writing. But when the book is marketed and described as a “biography” resulting from twenty five years of research, the standard is — and should be — much higher for factual verification.


Finally, it bears notice that Mr. Jorgenson opened with the following quote from Brian Tracy:
The result in this case brings one to an unfortunate choice to make about Mr. Jorgenson’s book:  


#Either he was aware of the mountain of “facts” that cannot be made to fit, and chose to ignore them; or
#He was simply unaware of them. The first option calls into question Mr. Jorgenson’s integrity and reliability as a biographer, the second reveals a stark absence of meaningful research.


““Your beliefs act as a set of filters that screen out information that is inconsistent with them. You do not necessarily believe what you see, but rather you see what you already believe. You reject information that contradicts what you have already decided to believe, whether or not your beliefs, your prejudices, are based on fact or fantasy.
=''To quote Brian Tracy...''=


Finally, it bears notice that Mr. Jorgenson opened with the following quote from Brian Tracy:
:''Your beliefs act as a set of filters that screen out information that is inconsistent with them. You do not necessarily believe what you see, but rather you see what you already believe. You reject information that contradicts what you have already decided to believe, whether or not your beliefs, your prejudices, are based on fact or fantasy.


Mr. Jorgenson then goes on to add:
Mr. Jorgenson then goes on to add:


:''I agree. It takes effort to be honest and objective. The easy path for people is to filter out any facts that contradict their theories and then they will always feel they are right.  I think this is one reason people reject the Message of the Hour.


“I agree. It takes effort to be honest and objective. The easy path for people is to filter out any facts that contradict their theories and then they will always feel they are right.  I think this is one reason people reject the Message of the Hour.
'''This combination of quote and comment could not be more ironic.'''


 
Mr. Jorgenson fails to recognize that Brian Tracy’s quote perfectly describes the faulty thought process someone might use to cling to a belief system in the face of growing evidence against it, as well as why they would celebrate a paper thin defense such as the one offered by Mr. Jorgenson himself — because it matches what they already believe, so no discernment is applied toward determining if it is actually true — yet the chosen quote does nothing at all to explain why droves of people, would be leaving, leaving what many of them whole-heartedly believed was true, something in which they had their personal identity, their family structure, their social circle, their very life! This behavior is actually antithetical to the premise of Tracy’s quote, and speaks to the power of truth and of the Holy Spirit in a humble heart.
This combination of quote and comment could not be more ironic. Mr. Jorgenson fails to recognize that Brian Tracy’s quote perfectly describes the faulty thought process someone might use to cling to a belief system in the face of growing evidence against it, as well as why they would celebrate a paper thin defense such as the one offered by Mr. Jorgenson himself—because it matches what they already believe, so no discernment is applied toward determining if it is actually true—yet the chosen quote does nothing at all to explain why droves of people, would be leaving, leaving what many of them whole-heartedly believed was true, something in which they had their personal identity, their family structure, their social circle, their very life! This behavior is actually antithetical to the premise of Tracy’s quote, and speaks to the power of truth and of the Holy Spirit in a humble heart.
Let us return to John 3 once more, only this time, let’s pay less attention to the words of the Pharisee and instead, turn our attention to the words of our Lord:
Let us return to John 3 once more, only this time, let’s pay less attention to the words of the Pharisee and instead, turn our attention to the words of our Lord:


13 No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
:''No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
 
16 “For God so loved the world ] that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.


:''For God so loved the world ] that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.


The word “gospel” simply means “good news”. Jesus found preaching this good news to Nicodemus to be a far more important subject than his own miracles. Paul, Peter, James and many others spent the balance of their lives—and indeed, gave their lives— underlining that same gospel focus. So what about us?  Jude instructed his readers to “earnestly contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints”. The single word translated “once for all” is the same word Peter uses in 1 Peter 3:18 when he declared that Christ suffered once for sins” It is finished. We rest on that exact same gospel, his work on Calvary and his resurrection. May we stop falling in love with enticing “new” revelations and become consumed by the same passion that drove those early Christians. May we say, as Paul: “For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.”   
The word “gospel” simply means “good news”. Jesus found preaching this good news to Nicodemus to be a far more important subject than his own miracles. Paul, Peter, James and many others spent the balance of their lives—and indeed, gave their lives— underlining that same gospel focus. So what about us?  Jude instructed his readers to “earnestly contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints”. The single word translated “once for all” is the same word Peter uses in 1 Peter 3:18 when he declared that Christ suffered once for sins” It is finished. We rest on that exact same gospel, his work on Calvary and his resurrection. May we stop falling in love with enticing “new” revelations and become consumed by the same passion that drove those early Christians. May we say, as Paul: “For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified.”