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William Branham claimed he saw a series of eight prophetic visions in June 1933, which he also claimed to write down in an old book.  In the seventh vision, a woman rose to great power in America.  William Branham was not sure whether the "Woman" in this vision was a physical woman, or a religious power such as the Catholic Church.
William Branham told about a series of eight prophetic visions he experienced in June 1933.  In the seventh vision, a woman rose to great power in America.  William Branham was not sure whether the "Woman" in this vision was a physical woman, or a religious power such as the Catholic Church.


==1958 retelling of the 1933 prophecy==
William Branham said the following in 1958:


<mediaplayer height= 50>Why Are We Not A Denomination, 1958|woman rising 58-0927.mp3</mediaplayer>
:''And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States. And she'll sink under the influence of women. Now, you remember; that's THUS SAITH THE LORD.''  
 
:''And I said, "Remember, in that day, before the end time comes, before the end time comes, that a woman... Now, you all keep this wrote down. There'll be a great powerful woman raise up, either be President, or dictator, or some great powerful woman in this United States. And she'll sink under the influence of women. Now, you remember; that's THUS SAITH THE LORD.'' (See the sermon [http://www.nathan.co.za/message.asp?sermonum=520 Why Are We Not A Denomination] for the full text of this prophecy.)


==Problems with the prophecy==
==Problems with the prophecy==
In the Laodicean Church Age book, William Branham says, “Now let me say this. Can anyone prove any of those visions wrong? Were they not all fulfilled?”  Almost 80 years after 1933, we now have the benefit of hindsight in our ability to confirm the accuracy of these prophecies.


===Changes in the prophecy over time===
===Changes in the prophecy over time===
The prophecy was written down, so each retelling of it should have been consistent.  However, William Branham's statement that a woman would rise to the American Presidency later changed to women voting in a Catholic president.  The great woman became beautiful and cruel, and William Branham claimed this was fulfilled with the election of JFK.  Later, the woman was dressed in purple.  In one sermon this was to be followed immediately by the destruction of America.  William Branham omitted JFK from the fulfillment of this prophecy after the President was assassinated in November 1963.
The prophecy was written down, so each retelling of it should have been consistent.  However, William Branham's statement that a woman would rise to the American Presidency later changed to women voting in a Catholic president.  The great woman became beautiful and cruel, and William Branham claimed this was fulfilled with the election of JFK.  Later, the woman was dressed in purple.  In one sermon this was to be followed immediately by the destruction of America.  William Branham omitted JFK from the fulfillment of this prophecy after the President was assassinated in November 1963.
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*1955: A woman will rise to power in America as a president.  <ref>''Before the end time comes, there'll be a woman, that'll be a great ruler in this nation. She will either be president or something on that order, some great woman.'' (May 1, 1955, Chicago, Illinois) </ref>
*1955: A woman will rise to power in America as a president.  <ref>''Before the end time comes, there'll be a woman, that'll be a great ruler in this nation. She will either be president or something on that order, some great woman.'' (May 1, 1955, Chicago, Illinois) </ref>
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*Church Age Book: Voting is connected with the decline in morals and the rise of a beautiful, cruel woman in America, possibly the Catholic Church.  <ref>''God showed me that women began to be out of their place with the granting of the vote…Then in the sixth vision there arose up in America a most beautiful, but cruel woman. She held the people in her complete power. I believed that this was the rise of the Roman Catholic Church, though I knew it could possibly be a vision of some woman rising in great power in America due to a popular vote by women.'' (Church Age Book, Chapter 9)</ref>
*Church Age Book: Voting is connected with the decline in morals and the rise of a beautiful, cruel woman in America, possibly the Catholic Church.  <ref>''God showed me that women began to be out of their place with the granting of the vote…Then in the sixth vision there arose up in America a most beautiful, but cruel woman. She held the people in her complete power. I believed that this was the rise of the Roman Catholic Church, though I knew it could possibly be a vision of some woman rising in great power in America due to a popular vote by women.'' (Church Age Book, Chapter 9)</ref>


===The Prophecy Was Fulfilled?===
William Branham also mentions that Leo Mercer would be revising this prophecy, when he said, ''"By the way, Mr. Mercier and many of them are going to take some of these old prophecies, and dig them out, and revise them a little, or bring them up to date, and put them in papers.'' <ref>CONDEMNATION.BY.REPRESENTATION_  JEFF.IN  V-2 N-13  SUNDAY_  60-1113</ref>


In 1961, William Branham stated the following:
==='''Thus saith the Lord''' - the women’s vote elected the wrong man===


:''Now, that brings us then to the election of President Kennedy, and this car coming on the--on the scene, bringing five things out of the seven that has happened exactly.'' (Sermon: The Seventieth Week of Daniel, August 6, 1961, Jeffersonville, IN)
The 1960 U.S. Presidential Election was held on November 8, 1960.  Five days after the election, on November 13, 1960, William Branham mentioned a '''prophecy on tape for the very first time'''. He blamed John F. Kennedy’s election on the women’s vote:


Why did he state that this vision was fulfilled?
:''I'd like to read some things that I'd like for you to--to... This one first. I'd like to read something to you.


===Women’s vote vs. a rigged vote===
:''1932: (Listen to this.) As I was on my way... Or as I was getting ready to go on my way to church this morning, it came to pass that I fell into a vision. Our services is being held on Meigs Avenue at the old orphans' home, where Charlie Kern lives in part of the building." (He lives just across the street now, you know.)
William Branham first blamed John F. Kennedy’s election on the women’s vote, then on a rigged voting system. William Branham said:
*November 13, 1960: ''Women, given the right to vote, elected President-elect Kennedy--with the woman's vote, the wrong man.''
*October 14, 1962: ''When, they proved that the machines across the nation was set up, that they elected Mr. Kennedy by a false vote. Don't the Bible say that he would come in by deceit? Certainly, a falsehood.''


===Preach against those you don’t like===
:''And it came to pass that while I was in this vision I seen some dreadful things take place. I speak this in the Name of the Lord.
William Branham did not respect Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, voting women, Jacqueline Kennedy, or the Catholic Church.  It is no surprise that these people made their way from his sermons into his prophecies.  In the United States, women were given a right to vote in 1920. William Branham called this an “evil thing”, which he claimed he had the right to do because he had “Thus Saith The Lord”.


==Rise of a Woman in America==
:'''''It shall--also has been an evil thing done in this country; they have permitted women to vote'''. This is a woman's nation, and she will pollute this nation as Eve did Eden. Now, you see why I'm hammering the way I do. I got, '''THUS SAITH THE LORD. In her voting she will elect the wrong person.''' …Women, given the right to vote, elected '''President-elect Kennedy--with the woman's vote, the wrong man, which will finally be to full control of the Catholic church in the United States; then the bomb comes that explodes her.'''”<ref>CONDEMNATION.BY.REPRESENTATION_  JEFF.IN  V-2 N-13  SUNDAY_  60-1113</ref>
In 1933, Frances Perkins became the first female member of the United States Cabinet, and the original film version of ''King Kong'', starring Fay Wray, premiered in New York City. Between 1933 and 2008, women have increased their presence in blue collar jobs, broke the corporate glass ceiling, and shattered the stained-glass ceiling of most religions in America.


*In 1984 Geraldine Ferraro ran unsuccessfully as the Democratic nominee for Vice President.
'''But he was wrong.''' According to Gallup, during the 1960 election 51% of women voted for Nixon and 49% voted for Kennedy.<ref>[http://www.gallup.com/poll/9454/election-polls-vote-groups-19601964.aspx Election pol results for the 190 Presidential election]</ref> So, this is '''a false THUS SAITH THE LORD prophecy''' that was first spoken after it had been 'fulfilled'. Read more on [[Women's Suffrage]].
*In 2006, Nancy Pelosi became the first speaker of the house of Congress, and second in the line of Presidential succession after the Vice President.  
*Hillary Clinton (the next U.S. Secretary of State) campaigned to become the first woman Democratic candidate for President of the United States in the 2008 presidential election.  
*On August 29, 2008 Republican Presidential nominee John McCain presented Gov. Sarah Palin as the Republican nominee for Vice President of the United States.  


==The Catholic Church in America==
And why did William Branham first "read" this prophecy publicly only after he thought that it had been fulfilled?
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Pope Benedict XVI receives an unprecidented welcome to the United States during his visit from April 15 - 20, 2008.


" '''I don't think there's any question about it, [George Bush] is much more Catholic than Kennedy.''' "
===Preach against those you don’t like===


Rick Santorum, Catholic and Former Pennsylvania Senator. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/11/AR2008041103327.html]
William Branham did not respect Franklin D. Roosevelt, John F. Kennedy, voting women, Jacqueline Kennedy, or the Catholic ChurchIt is no surprise that these people made their way from his sermons into his prophecies. In the United States, women were given a right to vote in 1920William Branham called this an “evil thing”, which he claimed he had the right to do because he had “Thus Saith The Lord”.
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In 1783, at the end of the American Revolution, less than 1% of Americans were Catholic. As Protestant America opened its arms to immigrants from all corners of the world, it also accepted their religions.  By 1910, as the result of huge number of Irish, German, Italian, Polish, French Canadian, and Eastern European immigrants, 14.6 Million Americans (16.4% of the population) were Catholic.  <ref name="CatholicStats">http://www.earthhealing.info/catholicstats.pdf</ref>
 
In 1850, New York Archbishop John Hughes made the following statement:
 
:''Everybody should know that we have for our mission to convert the world- including the inhabitants of the United States- the people of the cities, and the people of the country, the Officers of the Navy and the Marines, commander of the Army, the legislatures, the Senate, the Cabinet, the President and all.'' <ref name="Dagger">''Dagger John,'' Shaw, 1977, p. 344)</ref>
 
In 1926, one million Catholics gathered in Chicago for the 28th International Eucharist Congress; it was seen as a "kind of formal debut for the American Church" <ref name="Morris">(''American Catholic,'' Morris, 1997, p.137).</ref>  The running of Catholic governor Al Smith for President in 1928 sparked a sense of alarm among Protestants, and his defeat to Herbert Hoover was widely seen as a rejection of his religion.   
[[Image:Angelo_sodano.jpg|right|220px|thumb|Condolezza Rice meets Cardinal Angelo Sodano. Vatican City, February 8, 2005.]]
The 1940's saw an abundance of positive Catholic images coming out of Hollywood.  Movies regularly featured strong, sensitive priests or nuns directly involved in the lives of ordinary people.  The most popular U.S. television show in the mid-1950's was ''Life Is Worth Living'', a 30 minute lecture by the charismatic Bishop Fulton Sheen.  It quickly took the number one spot from the ''Texaco Comedy Hour'', which aired at the same time.  At the height of his career, Sheen had a regular audience of 30 million. 
 
In 1960, the first Catholic president, John F. Kennedy, was elected.  Still, Kennedy sought to distance himself from the Catholic church to assure Protestant voters that his religion would not influence his political decisions.  By 2008 President George Bush had eclipsed Kennedy's association with Rome, evidenced by his enthusiastic welcomed of Pope Benedict XVI onto U.S. soil.  In an article entitled ''A Catholic Wind in the White House'', the Washington Post discussed the extent of Catholic influence on America policy, concluding that Bush has ''wedded Catholic intellectualism with evangelical political savvy to forge a powerful electoral coalition'' and that ''the key to understanding Bush's domestic policy is to view it through the lense of Rome.''[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/11/AR2008041103327.html]
 
By 2006, 69.1 Million Americans (23% of the population) were Catholic. <ref name="CatholicDir">Official Catholic Directory 2006, (New Providence, N.J.: P.J. Kenedy & Sons, 2005), p.2003.)</ref>  In contrast, the largest Protestant Denomination in the United States, the Southern Baptist Convention, claims to have 16.3 Million members.  Catholics in the U.S. are about 6% of the church's total worldwide membership.
 
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==Message Believers and Women Politicians==
Message Believers watch women in politics very closely, and have many conspiracy theories about them.  Some (like [[Pearry Green]]) have claimed that Hillary Clinton will be the fulfillment of this prophecy and run for President.  Yet others supported Sarah Palin in her candidacy as she was Republican "and not evil".  So in our experience the fulfillment of this prophecy seems to be interpreted by the political leanings of the individual Message Believer.
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