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'''This article is a formal apology for publishing and distributing false doctrine.'''  <br>
'''This article is a formal apology for publishing and distributing false doctrine.'''  <br>


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[[Image:PieOK.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Humble Pie '''''"If you find that the evidence on this site has misled you in the past, we apologize."''''']]
=A message to our readers=


Dear Reader,
Dear Reader,


[[Image:PieOK.jpg|right|thumb|275px|Humble Pie '''''"If you find that the evidence on this site has misled you in the past, we apologize."''''']]From the start, the purpose of Believethesign.com has been to provide evidence to support truth.  Having grown up in a Message Church, the truth being supported was naturally that William Branham was Elijah the Prophet in fulfillment of Malachi 4:5 and Revelation 10:7.  In the fall of 2011, we changed the main scripture reference of the website to ''“Jesus Christ the same yesterday and today and forever”'' (Hebrews 13:8) in order shift the focus of the site clearly onto Jesus Christ.   
From the start, the purpose of Believethesign.com has been to provide evidence to support truth.  Having grown up in a Message Church, the truth being supported was naturally that William Branham was Elijah the Prophet in fulfillment of Malachi 4:5 and Revelation 10:7.  In the fall of 2011, we changed the main scripture reference of the website to ''“Jesus Christ the same yesterday and today and forever”'' (Hebrews 13:8) in order shift the focus of the site clearly onto Jesus Christ.   


The driving force behind this change is that we uncovered a number of significant issues with the evidence supporting William Branham’s prophetic ministry, as he proclaimed it.  Since that time, we have also uncovered issues with his honesty, his healing ministry, and his word of knowledge.   
The driving force behind this change is that we uncovered a number of significant issues with the evidence supporting William Branham’s prophetic ministry, as he proclaimed it.  Since that time, we have also uncovered issues with his honesty, his healing ministry, and his word of knowledge.   
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:''We're in the last days. We're standing near the judgment. Why? '''They're trying to eat old manna that fell back yonder fifty years ago''', the Pentecostal church. …They're trying to eat old manna. Oh, brother, that stuff is stagnated. It's contaminated. It's got…wiggle-tails in it, maggots. It'll kill you, to eat it.'' (Trying to do God a service, Jeffersonville, Indiana, July 18, 1965)  
:''We're in the last days. We're standing near the judgment. Why? '''They're trying to eat old manna that fell back yonder fifty years ago''', the Pentecostal church. …They're trying to eat old manna. Oh, brother, that stuff is stagnated. It's contaminated. It's got…wiggle-tails in it, maggots. It'll kill you, to eat it.'' (Trying to do God a service, Jeffersonville, Indiana, July 18, 1965)  
This quote was made over 50 years ago.  As a result, the question must be asked: '''Is it time to move on?'''


While our responsibility is simply to present the truth in love, our concern is that the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been replaced with a bowl full of rotten manna in Message Churches.  Some of our major concerns are are described in the pages that are linked from this page (just click on the colored headings to go to the detail pages).  Why it took so long for these things to surface is not clear.   
While our responsibility is simply to present the truth in love, our concern is that the Gospel of Jesus Christ has been replaced with a bowl full of rotten manna in Message Churches.  Some of our major concerns are are described in the pages that are linked from this page (just click on the colored headings to go to the detail pages).  Why it took so long for these things to surface is not clear.   
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=Problems With Prophecies=
=Problems With Prophecies=
 
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|''Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail.'' ~ I Corinthians 13:8a
|''Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail.'' ~ I Corinthians 13:8a
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:But on this final trip the vision again failed to materialized.  William Branham's visa was restricted in a way that prohibited him from holding any meetings. He died just prior to the end of 1965 with the vision remaining unfulfilled.
:But on this final trip the vision again failed to materialized.  William Branham's visa was restricted in a way that prohibited him from holding any meetings. He died just prior to the end of 1965 with the vision remaining unfulfilled.


[[Image:USSArizona.jpg|right|thumb|275px|Photo: The USS Arizona sinks in Pearl Harbour on December 7, 1941.  In 1960 William Branham said, ''I speak this in the Name of the Lord.  The president which now is, President Franklin D. Roosevelt... will cause the whole world to go to war... took America to England's tea party. That's right. Germany never picked on us; we picked on them, throwed the whole world into a war, to cause a world war.'']]
[[Image:USSArizona.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Photo: The USS Arizona sinks in Pearl Harbour on December 7, 1941.  In 1960 William Branham said, ''I speak this in the Name of the Lord.  The president which now is, President Franklin D. Roosevelt... will cause the whole world to go to war... took America to England's tea party. That's right. Germany never picked on us; we picked on them, throwed the whole world into a war, to cause a world war.'']]
'''[[Franklin D. Roosevelt]]'''
'''[[Franklin D. Roosevelt]]'''
:Part of William Branham’s 1933 prophecy was that FDR would pick on the Germans, lead the world to war, and run for four terms.  While Roosevelt was inaugurated four times, he did not pick on the Germans and followed the world to war after provocation by the Japanese. William Branham called Franklin D. Roosevelt a “rascal” in 1960, which indicates that he just did not like him.   
:Part of William Branham’s 1933 prophecy was that FDR would pick on the Germans, lead the world to war, and run for four terms.  While Roosevelt was inaugurated four times, he did not pick on the Germans and followed the world to war after provocation by the Japanese. William Branham called Franklin D. Roosevelt a “rascal” in 1960, which indicates that he just did not like him.   
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=General Credibility=
=General Credibility=
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|''We reject all shameful deeds and underhanded methods. We don’t try to trick anyone or distort the word of God. We tell the truth before God, and all who are honest know this.'' ~ 2 Corinthians 4:2 (NLT)
|''We reject all shameful deeds and underhanded methods. We don’t try to trick anyone or distort the word of God. We tell the truth before God, and all who are honest know this.'' ~ 2 Corinthians 4:2 (NLT)
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=Doctrinal Issues=
=Doctrinal Issues=
 
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|''These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?'' ~ John 10:21
|''These are not the words of him that hath a devil. Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?'' ~ John 10:21
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=Problems with Eyewitness Testimonies=
=Problems with Eyewitness Testimonies=
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|''Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.'' ~ 1 TImothy 5:19-20
|''Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.'' ~ 1 TImothy 5:19-20
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'''[[Pearry Green]]'''
'''[[Pearry Green]]'''
:While an eyewitness to the prophet, he was also accused of swindling a number of Message Believers out of their money in a letter written by Sarah Branham, William Branham's daughter.  Pearry Green also wrote that Los Angeles would sink before Billy Paul was an old man (he was born in 1935).  
:While an eyewitness to the prophet, he was also accused of swindling a number of Message Believers out of their money in a letter written by Sarah Branham, William Branham's daughter.  Pearry Green also wrote that Los Angeles would sink before Billy Paul was an old man (he was born in 1935).  
'''[[Edward Byskal]]'''
:Testimony removed.
'''Dawson Riley'''
:Testimony removed.


'''[[Jim Jones]]'''
'''[[Jim Jones]]'''
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=Prophecy of his passing=
=Prophecy of his passing=
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|''And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.'' ~ Hebrews 12:27
|''And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.'' ~ Hebrews 12:27
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=Where do we stand now?=
=Where do we stand now?=


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*Was William Branham the fulfillment of Malachi 4:5?
*Was William Branham the fulfillment of Malachi 4:5?
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*He sure lied a lot for a Christian.
*He sure [[Credibility|lied a lot]] for a Christian.
*[[The Status of Message Believers|Some are.]]  
*[[The Status of Message Believers|Some are.]]  
*There is evidence that some were healed, and some died.  
*A few were healed, [[How many people were healed in Branham's meetings?|most weren't, and some died.]]
*There is some evidence of this.  
*There is [[William Branham speaks in tongues|some evidence that the discernment was faked]].  
*[[Proof of the Prophetic|There is '''no evidence''' of any "before the fact" prophecies]].   
*[[Proof of the Prophetic|There is '''no evidence''' of any "before the fact" prophecies]].   
*No.
*No.
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Jeremy Bergen, Editor <br>
Jeremy Bergen, Editor <br>
Rod Bergen, Webmaster<br>
www.believethesign.com
www.believethesign.com


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