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'''Ern Baxter''' was a minister who accompanied William Branham on many campaigns between 1947 and 1953.  William Branham's meetings were often called the Baxter-Branham meetings, as Ern Baxter would often preach.  He also acted as William Branham's campaign manager during these years.  William Branham mentioned that it was the Angel of the Lord that led him to contact Ern Baxter and have him accompany William Branham during his early healing campaigns.   
'''Ern Baxter''' was a minister who accompanied William Branham on many campaigns between 1947 and 1953.  William Branham's meetings were often called the Baxter-Branham meetings, as Ern Baxter would often preach.  He also acted as William Branham's campaign manager during these years.  William Branham mentioned that it was the Angel of the Lord that led him to contact Ern Baxter and have him accompany William Branham during his early healing campaigns.   


=Ern Baxter's view of William Branham=
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Ern Baxter said the following about William Branham's ministry:
Ern Baxter said the following about William Branham's ministry:
::''"When William Branham came on the scene, he was the only one who had a genuine healing ministry at that time."''


::''"Before praying for a person, he would give accurate details concerning the person's ailments, and also details of their lives - their hometown, activities, actions - even way back in their childhood. '''Branham never once made a mistake with the word of knowledge in all the years I was with him.''' That covers, in my case, thousands of instances."''
::''He would take the hand of the person in his. Immediately at the base of his thumb, in the thick part of his hand, there would be a specific manifestation according to the sickness or need. From seeing the phenomenon so often, I began to pick up what these were and became adept at reading them. ...Yes, you could see it. Then this gave way to the straight oral word where he would give accurate details concerning the person. He never missed, and this made a tremendous impact.''


::''"He just seemed to break from a whole new source."''
::'''''I think there can be a lesson in this. Branham, as a miracle worker, had a real place. Branham as a teacher was outside of his calling. The fruits of his teaching ministry are not good.'''''  


::''"it was just a parade of the supernatural."''
=William Branham's view of Ern Baxter=


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William Branham said the following about Ern Baxter, while in Chicago, IL, in 1958, a number of years after Ern Baxter returned to pastor his church in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.   
William Branham said the following about Ern Baxter, while in Chicago, IL, in 1958, a number of years after Ern Baxter returned to pastor his church in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.   


:''I haven't got an official campaign manager at these times, since our dear precious brother Ern Baxter, had to return to his church. It was calling for him. His church is almost the size of this auditorium. So to be gadding around across the country with me, his church wouldn't stand for it any longer. He had to return back to them or he'd probably lose his church. A wonderful soul, a wonderful man of God, and I love him.''  (Sermon: Door to the Heart, Chicago, Il, 01-12-58)
:''I haven't got an official campaign manager at these times, since our dear precious brother Ern Baxter, had to return to his church. It was calling for him. His church is almost the size of this auditorium. So to be gadding around across the country with me, his church wouldn't stand for it any longer. He had to return back to them or he'd probably lose his church. A wonderful soul, a wonderful man of God, and I love him.''  (Sermon: Door to the Heart, Chicago, Il, 01-12-58)
=Interviews with Ern Baxter=
==August 1986 - from ern-baxter.blogspot.com==
Q: It might be helpful to hear how you faced the change in your relationship with William Branham, who you ministered for some time.
EB: In the ministry with William Branham, I saw a dimension of the supernatural, that had in it such seeds of Christian unity and other good fruits that my excitement was hard to contain. But when I saw carnality start to invade the movement - exaggeration, misrepresentation, metaphysics and eventually the breakdown of many of the healers in critical areas of their lives, because they couldn't handle the crowds, the popularity or the money - I had to withdraw from it. That probably was one of the most traumatic times in my life. I did a lot of praying at that time, a lot of groaning. In fact I did a lot of screaming, because I was close to an emotional breakdown. A tremendous move of God had been sold out so cheaply; it was difficult to handle.
If I hadn't had an experience with God, if I hadn't had a conciousness of His sovereignity, if I hadn't had some kind of relationship with God based on process, I don't know what I would have done. But I maintained the pastoral oversight of my church while working with Branham and I went back and gave myself totally to that. I was now pastoring a church, where as before I had been with thousands of people in city-shaking meetings. It was quite a shock.
I would go to my study, get down on the floor and just groan. I'd talk to God and just wait. I couldn't do anything else. If it were not for my relationship with God, I could have taken the extreme position that Christianity was "a bunch of bunk". But I couldn't do that, because it wasn't a matter of Christianity; it was a matter of the healers. It was a matter of who was the most important Person in this, and that was God. God wasn't bunk to me. I knew that. I knew God and I knew where God was.
Q: What did that experience work in your life?
EB: Romans 5:3-4 says; "Tribulation worketh patience, and patience, experience and experience, hope". Tribulation means pressure. God lets pressures come into our lives so that we get experience. And there's nothing like experience.
I once heard a story about a man who lived on a hog farm all his life, raising hogs and doing a good job of it. He learned from his dad. But one day he decided his boy wasn't going to learn hog farming by trial and error as he did; he was going to go to an agricultural college and learn how to be a smart farmer. So off his son went and after graduation, he came back to the farm, and his dad told him to go ahead and make some improvements. The boy did and the pigs began to die. Suddenly the father realised that his son had built a fancy new operation, but forgot to put proper ventilation in it. So the old man tore it all down and built what he had before.
It takes a lot more than a degree in college to learn the facts of life. Because of his experience, the old man really ought to have been a lecturer at the college.
Q: Without your experience, you wouldn't have had the relationship that you have now with the Lord, would you?
EB: Right. A word that is missing from our vocabulary today is "endurance". Hebrews 12:6 says, "Whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth". If you endure chastening, then He deals with you as a son - if you endure chastening. It's not necessarily punishment; it can be instruction. To endure means to wade through until it's done. That's where patience comes in.
A lot of Christians live from crisis to crisis and wonder why their crises are so hard. It's because they don't develop a process. All God is saying in a crisis is that if you move in close to Him and develop a process, you might not need all those crises.<ref>http://ern-baxter.blogspot.com/2006/03/interview-with-ern-baxter.html</ref>
==Dewey Friedel - Interview with Ern Baxter==




<div style="border-bottom:1px #B87333 solid; text-align:center; font-size:140%; padding:1px; margin:1px;">Interview with Ern Baxter</div>
<ref>Barnes III, Roscoe. (2018). Why Ern Baxter Left the Ministry of William Branham: A Look at Problematic Concerns About Faith and ‘Borderline Psychic” Phenomena. 10.6084/m9.figshare.6739133.v1.</ref>  
The following is a portion of an interview with Ern Baxter published in the December 1978 issue of New Wine Magazine.


==New Wine Magazine - Interview with Ern Baxter==
The following is a portion of an interview with Ern Baxter published in the December 1978 issue of New Wine Magazine.<ref>New Wine Magazine, ''"New Wine Interviews Ern Baxter"'', Christian Growth Ministries, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, pp. 4-7, 22-24</ref>


'''In his book All Things Are Possible, which is a historical look at the healing and charismatic revivals in modern America, David Harrell makes this statement: "Few learned observers recognized the significance of the huge healing campaigns of the 1950's; not many of those enthralled by the charismatic movement today understand its origins." Can you tell us what kind of religious "climate" than there was in the post-World War II years, and what circumstances made the era of the healing the revivals possible?'''
'''In his book All Things Are Possible, which is a historical look at the healing and charismatic revivals in modern America, David Harrell makes this statement: "Few learned observers recognized the significance of the huge healing campaigns of the 1950's; not many of those enthralled by the charismatic movement today understand its origins." Can you tell us what kind of religious "climate" than there was in the post-World War II years, and what circumstances made the era of the healing the revivals possible?'''
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:I believe there’s a Bible principle involved. No matter who we are, if we don’t relate to the principles of truth, we pay for it. We either fall on it and break in repentance, or it falls on us and breaks us in judgment.
:I believe there’s a Bible principle involved. No matter who we are, if we don’t relate to the principles of truth, we pay for it. We either fall on it and break in repentance, or it falls on us and breaks us in judgment.


:The measure of faith Paul talks about in Romans 12 where he says, “to each man is given a measure of faith . . . he that prophesieth, let him prophecy according to the measure of faith,” indicates that we all have been given a grace gift. But we must walk within the confines of our gift. For instance, if a miracle worker, who may be used mightily in working miiracles, steps over the boundaries of that gift and presumes, to be a teacher when God has not called him to teach, then he is violating the rule of walking within his grace.
:The measure of faith Paul talks about in Romans 12 where he says, “to each man is given a measure of faith . . . he that prophesieth, let him prophecy according to the measure of faith,” indicates that we all have been given a grace gift. But we must walk within the confines of our gift. For instance, if a miracle worker, who may be used mightily in working miracles, steps over the boundaries of that gift and presumes, to be a teacher when God has not called him to teach, then he is violating the rule of walking within his grace.


:Branham saw himself as a teacher of some kind of “in” truth. To me, some of it was quite esoteric. I became aware early in his ministry that there was a mixture. I urged him not to say some things in public. As long as we worked together he refrained. One of the reasons for my leaving him was that he was starting to say some seriously wrong things. When that, coupled with other circumstances, eventually became unbearable, I resigned.
:Branham saw himself as a teacher of some kind of “in” truth. To me, some of it was quite esoteric. I became aware early in his ministry that there was a mixture. I urged him not to say some things in public. As long as we worked together he refrained. One of the reasons for my leaving him was that he was starting to say some seriously wrong things. When that, coupled with other circumstances, eventually became unbearable, I resigned.
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:I believe these principles are very basic. In addition, man does not live by miracles alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Miracles and signs arid wonders are not food. They are signs to tell you where the food is. If you try to live on the signs, you get unbalanced nutrition.
:I believe these principles are very basic. In addition, man does not live by miracles alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Miracles and signs arid wonders are not food. They are signs to tell you where the food is. If you try to live on the signs, you get unbalanced nutrition.


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