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=Edward Byskal=


==Video Transcript==
Edward F. Byskal (Eddie) is the founding pastor of [[Cloverdale Bibleway]].  The church has suffered in the last years with a departure of the senior church leadership en masse in October, 2009, after allegations surfaced that Byskal covered up the sexual abuse of a minor that took place in the church.  Two new churches were established by those who no longer had confidence in Byskal's leadership (one new Church in Canada and a second in the United States).  Prior to the split, Ed Byskal told his congregation that if 49% of them voted for him to step down, he would.  More than half of his congregation left after he refused to acknowledge their concerns.


'''Rod Bergen:''' Hi, my name is Rod Bergen and this is a first in a series of spots examining the credibility of message ministers.  The first is of Ed Byskal of Cloverdale Bibleway in Surrey, British Columbia, Canada and specifically we want to look at some comments he made on the morning of October 21, 2012:
=Video Transcript=


:''I had a man, about 40 years ago, brother Ken (EFB speaking to a man on the platform), who you know well, come into my office and he says…and I’ve mentioned this before, but now I am going to tie it together with my message. He said, “I don’t believe in the “Cloud” anymore. He says. “I have learned that it was just a missile that was destroyed…sent up from Fort Edward’s missile base in California…
'''Interviewer:''' This is a first in a series of spots examining the credibility of message ministers.  The first is of Ed Byskal of Cloverdale Bibleway in Surrey, British Columbia, Canada and specifically we want to look at some comments he made on the morning of October 21, 2012:


:''Isn’t it amazing that the person who walked into my study 40 years ago and said, “I don’t believe in the cloud anymore,” just finished a 400 page book, which was released just now, this Spring …
:''I had a man, about 40 years ago, brother Ken (EFB speaking to a man on the platform), who you know well, come into my office and he says…and I’ve mentioned this before, but now I am going to tie it together with my message. He said, “I don’t believe in the “Cloud” anymore. He says. “I have learned that it was just a missile that was destroyed…sent up from Fort Edward’s missile base in California.


:''I DENY HIM THAT RIGHT IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST! HE HAS NO RIGHT AND HAVE NO SPACE IN YOUR MIND, BECAUSE THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST IS THE VEIL THAT PREVENTS HIM. CAN THIS CONGREGATION SAY, PRAISE BE TO GOD?”
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:''Isn’t it amazing that the person who walked into my study 40 years ago and said, “I don’t believe in the cloud anymore,” just finished a 400 page book, which was released just now, this Spring.''


'''Rod Bergen:''' We have with us, Peter Duyzer, the author of “Legend of the Fall, the book that Ed Byskal was referring to.  Peter, it’s good to have you here with us today.
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:''I DENY HIM THAT RIGHT IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST! HE HAS NO RIGHT AND HAVE NO SPACE IN YOUR MIND, BECAUSE THE BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST IS THE VEIL THAT PREVENTS HIM. CAN THIS CONGREGATION SAY, PRAISE BE TO GOD?”''
 
 
'''Interviewer:''' We have with us, Peter Duyzer, the author of “Legend of the Fall, the 400 page book that Ed Byskal was referring to.  Peter, it’s good to have you here with us today.


'''Peter Duyzer:''' It’s my pleasure to be able to speak to your audience.
'''Peter Duyzer:''' It’s my pleasure to be able to speak to your audience.


'''Rod Bergen:''' Peter, when did you first meet Ed Byskal?
'''Interviewer:''' Peter, when did you first meet Ed Byskal?


'''Peter Duyzer:''' I met Ed Byskal for the very first time in his Cloverdale home one evening in February, 1972. He was entertaining two minister friends from northern BC. They had just returned from some meetings at Bible Way in the Tri-cities area in southeast Washington state. They related how many young people had come to Christ and had gathered to burn all their drugs, magic and paraphernalia. This impacted me and I had a very dramatic conversion experience in Ed’s living room.  
'''Peter Duyzer:''' I met Ed Byskal for the very first time in his Cloverdale home one evening in February, 1972. He was entertaining two minister friends from northern BC. They had just returned from some meetings at Bible Way in the Tri-cities area in southeast Washington state. They related how many young people had come to Christ and had gathered to burn all their drugs, magic and paraphernalia. This impacted me and I had a very dramatic conversion experience in Ed’s living room.  


'''Rod Bergen:''' Was there any mention made of Bro. Branham?
'''Interviewer:''' Was there any mention made of Bro. Branham?


'''Peter Duyzer:'''No, when I became a Christian I had never even heard of William Branham.
'''Peter Duyzer:'''No, when I became a Christian I had never even heard of William Branham.
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Finally in 1980, after doing a lot of research, I published a 27 page booklet, called “’Mystery Cloud, Expose on Wm. Branham,” the findings of which were eventually rolled into Legend of the Fall.
Finally in 1980, after doing a lot of research, I published a 27 page booklet, called “’Mystery Cloud, Expose on Wm. Branham,” the findings of which were eventually rolled into Legend of the Fall.


'''Rod Bergen:''' So what about Ed Byskal’s story of you coming into his office to discuss the cloud?
'''Interviewer:''' So what about Ed Byskal’s story of you coming into his office to discuss the cloud?


'''Peter Duyzer:'''It’s just that – a story – pure fiction. In fact I did not know of the cloud 40 years ago (1972) when I first became a Christian, and I left Bible Way over other disagreements with Ed in 1975.   
'''Peter Duyzer:'''It’s just that – a story – pure fiction. In fact I did not know of the cloud 40 years ago (1972) when I first became a Christian, and I left Bible Way over other disagreements with Ed in 1975.   


'''Rod Bergen:''' Did you ever discuss the cloud with Ed Byskal?
'''Interviewer:''' Did you ever discuss the cloud with Ed Byskal?


'''Peter Duyzer:'''I have never discussed the cloud with Ed and certainly never walked into his office for the purpose of telling him that I no longer believed in the cloud.  
'''Peter Duyzer:'''I have never discussed the cloud with Ed and certainly never walked into his office for the purpose of telling him that I no longer believed in the cloud.  


As an aside, I DO believe in the cloud, I have tons of Newspaper photos of it, including LIFE mag and others, who gave me written permission to use their photos and articles,  
As an aside, I DO believe in the cloud, I have tons of Newspaper photos of it, including LIFE magazine and others, who gave me written permission to use their photos and articles,  


But it has a natural explanation and had nothing to do with appearing to Wm. Branham.  He was in Houston, TX at the time and was not hunting.
But it has a natural explanation and had nothing to do with appearing to Wm. Branham.  He was in Houston, TX at the time and was not hunting.


'''Rod Bergen:''' So Peter, you are saying that Ed Byskal made up the story about your coming to him to discuss your changed beliefs relating to the cloud.
'''Interviewer:''' So Peter, you are saying that Ed Byskal made up the story about your coming to him to discuss your changed beliefs relating to the cloud.


'''Peter Duyzer:''' That’s correct.  Ed Byskal fabricated the events he related in his sermon.  I’m not sure why he felt he had to do this, but there is absolutely no truth to it.
'''Peter Duyzer:''' That’s correct.  Ed Byskal fabricated the events he related in his sermon.  I’m not sure why he felt he had to do this, but there is absolutely no truth to it.


'''Rod Bergen:''' Thanks, Peter, we appreciate your time in sharing this, and clearing this up.
'''Interviewer:''' Thanks, Peter, we appreciate your time in sharing this, and clearing this up.
 
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