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William Branham even said that if he told a person "thus saith the Lord" that they would be healed and they didn't have faith, they wouldn't be healed:
William Branham even said that if he told a person "thus saith the Lord" that they would be healed and they didn't have faith, they wouldn't be healed:


:''''But, no matter, if my word was absolutely THUS SAITH THE LORD, and you would disbelieve It, you'd die, anyhow. Certainly.  Here is THUS SAITH THE LORD, and many of them receive It and die.  Many of them go to hell, when, THUS SAITH THE LORD, "You don't have to." Is that right? ...See? It's what… '''It's all based on your faith'''.<ref>William Branham, 57-0922E - Hebrews, Chapter Seven #2, para. 267</ref>
:''But, no matter, '''if my word was absolutely THUS SAITH THE LORD, and you would disbelieve It, you'd die, anyhow'''. Certainly.  '''Here is THUS SAITH THE LORD, and many of them receive It and die.''' Many of them go to hell, when, THUS SAITH THE LORD, "You don't have to." Is that right? ...See? It's what… '''It's all based on your faith'''.<ref>William Branham, 57-0922E - Hebrews, Chapter Seven #2, para. 267</ref>


=What does the Bible teach?=
=What does the Bible teach?=
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Here Jesus' faith (Thus saith the Lord) overcomes Peter's fear and lack of faith, not the other way around.
Here Jesus' faith (Thus saith the Lord) overcomes Peter's fear and lack of faith, not the other way around.


Try applying William Branham's explanation here: Jesus has TSTL for Peter to walk on the water, but Peter disbelieves, sinks, and drowns, "you'd die anyhow. Certainly."  
Try applying William Branham's explanation here: Jesus has "thus saith the Lord" for Peter to walk on the water.  According to William Branham, if Peter disbelieved, he would sink, and drown - "you'd die anyhow. Certainly."  
That explanation makes the victim's unbelief more powerful than God's Word, which shall never pass away. Clearly, Jesus faith was more powerful than Peter's doubt. Just as clear, do not blame the victim for Bro. Branham's false claim.
 
William Branahm's explanation makes the victim's unbelief more powerful than God's Word, which shall never pass away. Clearly, Jesus faith was more powerful than Peter's doubt. Just as clear, we should not blame the victim for Bro. Branham's false claim.


Another example is when the man brought his son to Jesus that the disciples were unable to heal:
Another example is when the man brought his son to Jesus that the disciples were unable to heal:
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:''He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”<ref>The New International Version, (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Mt 17:14–20.</ref>
:''He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”<ref>The New International Version, (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Mt 17:14–20.</ref>


If Bro. Branham had the faith of TSTL, then the mountain would move / the person would not die, but instead he excuses himself and blames the victims. By comparing the Bible to Bro. Branham, he again proves his unbelief in his own TSTL statements AND directly contradicts Jesus teaching.
If William Branham had faith and had "thus saith the Lord", then the mountain would move and the person would not die.  Instead, William Branham excuses himself and blames the victims. When we compare the Bible to William Branham, he actually proves his unbelief in his own "thus saith the Lord" statements AND directly contradicts Jesus teaching.
 
It is true that Jesus sometimes commends others for their faith, such as the Centurion in Matt 8 or the Caananite woman in Matt. 15. But I do not recall Jesus blaming victims for dying after he said they would get well. In fact, His prayers are answered in spite of others unbelief, as above or in Matt 8:26 "What are you afraid, O you of little faith? Then he rose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm."
 
I find it much more compelling when comparing these spurious statements to the Gospel, rather than just leaving it to the reader to determine if Bro. Branham's explanation is plausible.
 


It is true that Jesus sometimes commends others for their faith, such as the Centurion in Matt 8:5-13 or the Caananite woman in Matt. 15:21-28.  But scripture does not contain Jesus blaming victims for dying after he said they would get well. In fact, His prayers are answered in spite of others unbelief, as in the examples above, or in Matt 8:26 when he asked his disciples: "''What are you afraid, O you of little faith? Then he rose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm.''"


=Conclusion=
=Conclusion=


This appears to be a simple case of William Branham providing an excuse for people that were never healed by God in the first place.  This was a common ploy used by healing evangelists as related by Walter Hollenweger, a noted Pentecostal historian who worked as translator for Branham in one of his campaigns in Switzerland, who wrote of William Branham:
In stating that people can lose their healing after he has pronounced them healed. William Branham appears to be providing an excuse for people that were never healed by God in the first place.  This was a common ploy used by healing evangelists as related by Walter Hollenweger, a noted Pentecostal historian who worked as translator for Branham in one of his campaigns in Switzerland, who wrote of William Branham:


:''He possessed an extraordinary diagnostic gift and could identify the illnesses (sometimes even the names) of persons he had never seen. Unfortunately '''his healing prognosis was accurate only in rare cases'''. '''The excuse of healing evangelists in such cases has always been: The patient did not really believe; for they were convinced that faith leads automatically to health.'''<ref>Hollenweger, Walter J. (1997). Pentecostalism: Origins and Developments Worldwide. Baker Academic. ISBN 978-0801046605.</ref>
:''He possessed an extraordinary diagnostic gift and could identify the illnesses (sometimes even the names) of persons he had never seen. Unfortunately '''his healing prognosis was accurate only in rare cases'''. '''The excuse of healing evangelists in such cases has always been: The patient did not really believe; for they were convinced that faith leads automatically to health.'''<ref>Hollenweger, Walter J. (1997). Pentecostalism: Origins and Developments Worldwide. Baker Academic. ISBN 978-0801046605.</ref>
William Branham's views on this issue cannot be substantiated in scripture.


=Quotes of William Branham=
=Quotes of William Branham=