A response to Pastor Wisper Gwena: Difference between revisions

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::BUT YOU FAILED TO STATE '''HOW''' THE PRECEDENTS ALLOW YOU TO GET AROUND DEUT 18:20-22.  You point out the Biblical discrepancies and then you talk about how WMB said that visions worked (although WMB's illustration never explained how a vision failed).  But you '''never''' state how the Biblical discrepancies you used somehow exempt WMB's failed visions from Deut 18:20-22.
::BUT YOU FAILED TO STATE '''HOW''' THE PRECEDENTS ALLOW YOU TO GET AROUND DEUT 18:20-22.  You point out the Biblical discrepancies and then you talk about how WMB said that visions worked (although WMB's illustration never explained how a vision failed).  But you '''never''' state how the Biblical discrepancies you used somehow exempt WMB's failed visions from Deut 18:20-22.


::The “message community” is not "happy" with the explanations because most message pastors avoid any explanation like the plague. As one ex-message follower told us, “I thought my pastor had examined these issues and that he had our best interest in mind. But I came to learn that was false.” These issues are not examined. I do applaud you for trying to do so but when you hide your sermons behind the security of your website, it appears disingenuous.
::The explanations we have heard are at best grasping at straws, which is what happens according to cognitive dissonance theory. Have you read Festinger’s landmark study in “When Prophecy Fails”. If not, then I don’t know how you can attempt to speak knowledgeably on the issue of cognitive dissonance.




::The “message community” is not happy with the explanations because they avoid any explanation like the plague. As one ex-message follower told us, “I thought my pastor had examined these issues and that he had our best interest in mind. But I came to learn that was false.” These issues are not examined. I do applaud you for trying to do so but when you hide your sermons behind the security of your website, it appears disingenuous.


::The explanations we have heard are at best grasping at straws, which is what happens according to cognitive dissonance theory. Have you read Festinger’s landmark study in “When Prophecy Fails”. If not, then I don’t know how you can attempt to speak knowledgeably on the issue of cognitive dissonance.


::You make statements that are not based on scripture. That is my foundation. That is the foundation of the CHRISTIAN church.
::You make statements that are not based on scripture. That is my foundation. That is the foundation of the CHRISTIAN church.