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→The Bible has errors and people believe it. So if the mesage has errors, it's the same thing
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==The Bible has errors and people believe it. So if the | ==The Bible has errors and people believe it. So if the message has errors, you should still believe it== | ||
An example of this is the reasoning given by Voice of God Recordings ("VoGR") in Catch the Vision, 2012, Volume 2. | An example of this is the reasoning given by Voice of God Recordings ("VoGR") in Catch the Vision, 2012, Volume 2. | ||
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The first thing that VoGR tells you is that you shouldn't reason with the Word of God. The next thing they do is to apply flawed reasoning to the issue. But I thought we weren't supposed to reason? | The first thing that VoGR tells you is that you shouldn't reason with the Word of God. The next thing they do is to apply flawed reasoning to the issue. But I thought we weren't supposed to reason? | ||
Message believers are so | Message believers are so desperate for an explanation that this flawed reasoning was immediately copied by a few well known message ministers such as Ed Byskal and Vin Dayal. | ||
Here is the argument: | Here is the argument: | ||
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The problem with this reasoning is that it assumes that the "problems" in the Bible are the same as the problems in the message. | The problem with this reasoning is that it assumes that the "problems" in the Bible are the same as the problems in the message. | ||
But | But are they the same? | ||
The two examples of Biblical "errors" that VOGR gives are: | The two examples of Biblical "errors" that VOGR gives are: | ||
#Paul's story of his conversion experience differs between Acts 9 and Acts 22. How can you believe the Bible if it can't get its facts straight on whether Paul companions heard the voice or not? | |||
#Genesis 15:13 says that the Egyptians would afflict the Israelits for four hundred year but Exodus 12:40 states that “the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. How can the Bible be trusted if there is a difference of 30 years? | |||
#Every Gospel tells the resurrection story differently. How can the Bible be true if a story this important is different in all four accounts? | #Every Gospel tells the resurrection story differently. How can the Bible be true if a story this important is different in all four accounts? | ||
===Differences in Paul's Conversion Experiences=== | ===Differences in Paul's Conversion Experiences=== | ||
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Acts 22:9 (NASB95) - ''And those who were with me saw the light, to be sure, but did not understand the voice of the One who was speaking to me.'' | Acts 22:9 (NASB95) - ''And those who were with me saw the light, to be sure, but did not understand the voice of the One who was speaking to me.'' | ||
===400 Years or 430 years?=== | |||
No chronological problem exists between Genesis 15:13 (“400 years”) and Exodus 12:40 (“430 years”). | |||
While 400 could easily be a general, rounded-off time span, the Jewish rabbis’ ancient resolution is that Genesis 15:13 speaks of Israel’s captivity in Egypt and Ex 12:40 speaks of the longer gap from Abraham’s entrance into Canaan to Moses’ leading the people out of Egypt. Hence, this latter span includes the additional 30 years. | |||
===Differences in the Gospel Accounts=== | |||
There are a number of explanations for the differences in the stories between the Gospel accounts, the simplest being: There are 4 different people telling the same story. Who in their right mind would expect them to be exactly the same? | |||
=Conclusion= | =Conclusion= | ||