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Bill Ivy is the pastor of Living Word Tabernacle, a message church in Gibson, Missouri. | |||
=Our response to Bill Ivy= | =Our response to Bill Ivy= | ||
Bill Ivy effectively says there is no requirement for you to defend your faith. | |||
Many of the Apostles and disciples were martyred because they recognized a need to defend their faith, and to evangelize their belief in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. | |||
Bill Ivy asserts that there is a church "AGE"... and this word never appears in Scripture, it is a construct of dispensationalists such as Larkin and others to justify their assertions as the Spirit of Elijah when they cast themselves in the role of MESSENGER... | |||
Bill Ivy uses Acts 17:11 incorrectly... | |||
In his letter, Ivy tells us that it is brave and noble that you YOURSELF (Emphasis HIS) should search Scripture just as the Bereans did... and while he mentions it in his letter, what he ignores is the "whether these things were so" part... there is a requirement in his own letter to examine what is heard to make sure it aligns with Scripture... and NO discussion about how to behave when it DOESN'T... | |||
Disagreement about doctrinal issues is not the point... We are instructed in Scripture that as we study what we hear to make sure it aligns with Scripture (ACTS 17:11) just as the Bereans did, and we come across what does not alogn with Scripture, then we are to WITHDRAW OURSELVES from the teaching which would take us further from Christ: | |||
1 Timothy 6:3-6 (KJV) | |||
3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; | |||
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, | |||
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. | |||
Branham taught that which directly opposes Scripture... | |||
And when we discover that someone proclaims to be a prophet, but when we examine daily against Scripture just like the Bereans (ACTS 17:11) and we discover that what is taught was not true, did not come to pass, then we are instructed about what to do: | |||
Deuteronomy 18:20-22 (KJV) | |||
20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. | |||
21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? | |||
22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. | |||
Pastor Ivy makes a number of comments which we disagree with. | Pastor Ivy makes a number of comments which we disagree with. | ||
== | ==Does the Bible REQUIRE us to defend our faith?== | ||
Bill Ivy seems to be suggesting that apologetics and apologists are not needed because the Bible and the message don’t need a defense. Unfortunately, that is not the view of the Apostle Peter, who stated: | Bill Ivy seems to be suggesting that apologetics and apologists are not needed because the Bible and the message don’t need a defense. Unfortunately, that is not the view of the Apostle Peter, who stated: | ||
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==How the message should be defended== | ==How the message should be defended== | ||
=WHAT ARE WE DEFENDING? By Bill Ivy= | =WHAT ARE WE DEFENDING? By Bill Ivy= | ||