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Jason Watkins, is the pastor of [[Bethel Tabernacle]], a message church in Beaufort, South Carolina.  He has no formal theological training, which is a badge of honor in [[The Message|the message]].


=A summary of our response to Jason Watkins=
=A summary of our response to Jason Watkins=
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:''For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John; if you’re willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who is to come. Anyone who has ears should listen!  
:''For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John; if you’re willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who is to come. Anyone who has ears should listen!  


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Matthew 17:10-13 (HCSB)  
Matthew 17:10-13 (HCSB)  
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Luke 16:16 (HCSB)  
Luke 16:16 (HCSB)  
16  “The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then, the good news of the kingdom of God has been proclaimed, and everyone is strongly urged to enter it."
:''“The Law and the Prophets were until John; since then, the good news of the kingdom of God has been proclaimed, and everyone is strongly urged to enter it."


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Matthew 11:13-15 (HCSB)  
Matthew 11:13-15 (HCSB)  
13  For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John;  
:''For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John; if you’re willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who is to come.  Anyone who has ears should listen!  
14  if you’re willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who is to come.  
15 Anyone who has ears should listen!  


The Apostle Paul reaffirms this after Christ died on the cross when he writes his letter to the Hebrew church:
The Apostle Paul reaffirms this after Christ died on the cross when he writes his letter to the Hebrew church:


Hebrews 1:1-3 (HCSB)  
Hebrews 1:1-3 (HCSB)  
Long ago God spoke to the fathers by the prophets at different times and in different ways.  
:''Long ago God spoke to the fathers by the prophets at different times and in different ways.  
In these last days, He has spoken to us by His Son. God has appointed Him heir of all things and made the universe through Him.  
:''In these last days, He has spoken to us by His Son. God has appointed Him heir of all things and made the universe through Him.  
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact expression of His nature, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After making purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.  
:''The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact expression of His nature, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After making purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.  


Both Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul tell us that the Word of God and the Holy Spirit are our direct access to God... NO PROPHETS REQUIRED...
Both Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul tell us that the Word of God and the Holy Spirit are our direct access to God... NO PROPHETS REQUIRED...


Now, are there prophets in the NEW COVENANT?  YES, ABSOLUTELY!!!  Paul the Apostle instrcuts us here:
Now, are there prophets in the NEW COVENANT?  YES, ABSOLUTELY!!!  Paul the Apostle instructs us here:


Ephesians 4:11-13 (HCSB)  
Ephesians 4:11-13 (HCSB)  
11  And He personally gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,  
:''And He personally gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, for the training of the saints in the work of ministry, to build up the body of Christ, until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of God’s Son, growing into a mature man with a stature measured by Christ’s fullness.  
12  for the training of the saints in the work of ministry, to build up the body of Christ,  
13  until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of God’s Son, growing into a mature man with a stature measured by Christ’s fullness.  


But they are not the access required or God's People to God, and they behave differently as is discussed here:
But they are not the access required for God's People to hear from God, and they behave differently as is discussed here:


1 Corinthians 14:29-33a (HCSB)  
1 Corinthians 14:29-33a (HCSB)  
29  Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should evaluate.  
:''Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should evaluate.  
30  But if something has been revealed to another person sitting there, the first prophet should be silent.  
:''But if something has been revealed to another person sitting there, the first prophet should be silent.  
31  For you can all prophesy one by one, so that everyone may learn and everyone may be encouraged.  
:''For you can all prophesy one by one, so that everyone may learn and everyone may be encouraged.  
32  And the prophets’ spirits are under the control of the prophets,  
:''And the prophets’ spirits are under the control of the prophets, since God is not a God of disorder but of peace...
33  since God is not a God of disorder but of peace...
 
Here we see that the prophets are to be confirmed by other prophets... and they never lie in the Lord's Name (as Branham did several times), they never teach that which directly opposes the Word of God (as Branham did several times), and the visions and prophecies which they speak ALWAY come to pass (we can't find a single instance where what Branham said as a vision or prophecy BEFORE THE EVENT actually came to pass).
 
There is no requirement for a Gentile prophet...
 


Here we see that the prophets are to be judged by the church and they never lie in the Lord's Name (as Branham did numerous times), they never teach that which directly opposes the Word of God (as Branham did multiple times), and the visions and prophecies which they speak ALWAY come to pass (we can't find a single instance where what Branham said as a vision or prophecy BEFORE THE EVENT actually came to pass).


There is no requirement for a Gentile prophet.


=A response to Jason Watkins' defense of the message=
=A detailed response to Jason Watkins' defense of the message=
 
Jason Watkins, is the pastor of [[Bethel Tabernacle]], a message church in Beaufort, South Carolina.  He has no formal theological training, which is a badge of honor in [[The Message|the message]].


The following is our detailed response to his defense of the message.
The following is our detailed response to his defense of the message.