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William Branham stated that he saw a mother eagle put her wings out and that her babies hopped onto her wing and she flew with them down to the grass in the valley below and then went back up to a mountain top to watch them. Then as a storm approached, she flew back down into the valley and took her eaglets back onto her wings and flew them to a place of safety. | William Branham stated that he saw a mother eagle put her wings out and that her babies hopped onto her wing and she flew with them down to the grass in the valley below and then went back up to a mountain top to watch them. Then as a storm approached, she flew back down into the valley and took her eaglets back onto her wings and flew them to a place of safety. | ||
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=How do eagles learn to fly?= | =How do eagles learn to fly?= | ||
There are no reports in ornithological journals or from the study of eagles by scientists that would indicate that eagles carry their young on their wings. | There are no reports in ornithological journals or from the study of eagles by scientists that would indicate that eagles carry their young on their wings. We actually contacted three well known scientists who study raptors (birds of prey such as eagles) and they indicated that the person telling the story was clearly making it up (we did not mention where we got this report) and one of the scientists got quite angry that someone would make up such an obviously false story. | ||
==Doesn't the Bible talk about this?== | ==Doesn't the Bible talk about this?== | ||
There are a couple of places in the KJV that refer to this phenomena: | There are a couple of places in the KJV that potentially refer to this phenomena, Exodus 19:4: | ||
:''Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself.<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Ex 19:4.</ref> | :''Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles’ wings, and brought you unto myself.<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Ex 19:4.</ref> | ||
And also Deuteronomy 32:11: | |||
:''...like an eagle that stirs up its nest and hovers over its young, that spreads its wings to catch them and carries them aloft.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Dt 32:11.</ref> | :''...like an eagle that stirs up its nest and hovers over its young, that spreads its wings to catch them and carries them aloft.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Dt 32:11.</ref> | ||
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:''Make thee bald, and poll thee for thy delicate children; Enlarge thy baldness as the eagle; For they are gone into captivity from thee.<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Mic 1:16.</ref> | :''Make thee bald, and poll thee for thy delicate children; Enlarge thy baldness as the eagle; For they are gone into captivity from thee.<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Mic 1:16.</ref> | ||
There are a couple of points to make about | There are a couple of points to make about the passage: | ||
#This passage is not talking about the North American bald eagle. This is referring to a bird with no feathers on its head. | #This passage is not talking about the North American bald eagle. This is referring to a bird with no feathers on its head. | ||
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:''Shave your head in mourning for the children in whom you delight; make yourself as bald as the vulture, for they will go from you into exile.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Mic 1:16.</ref> | :''Shave your head in mourning for the children in whom you delight; make yourself as bald as the vulture, for they will go from you into exile.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Mic 1:16.</ref> | ||
Also refer to Proverbs 30:17, the word is Nesher: | |||
:The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it out, and the young eagles shall eat it.<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Pr 30:17.</ref> | |||
The NIV corrects the translation: | |||
:''The eye that mocks a father, that scorns an aged mother, will be pecked out by the ravens of the valley, will be eaten by the vultures.<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Pr 30:17.</ref> | |||
Exodus 19:4 and Deuteronomy 32:11 both use the same Hebrew word - Nesher - so the Bible may be referring to being born on the wings of a vulture. | |||
===What is the Bible actually saying?=== | |||
While the KJV appears to state that the eagle/vulture does carry its young on its wings, other translations make it clear that it is God that is doing this and not necessarily an actual eagle/vulture in the wild: | |||
:''You saw what I did to the Egyptians, and '''how I lifted you''' up on eagles’ wings and brought you to me.<ref>Common English Bible (Nashville, TN: Common English Bible, 2011), Ex 19:4.</ref> | |||
:''Like an eagle protecting its nest, hovering over its young, '''God spread out his wings''', took hold of Israel, carried him on his back. <ref>Common English Bible (Nashville, TN: Common English Bible, 2011), Dt 32:11.</ref> | |||
God carried Israel on his back. This statement does not mean that an eagle in the wild carries its young on its back. As indicated above, this has never been scientifically attested to. The Bible is clearly not stating this. | |||
=What did William Branham see?= | |||
William Branham clearly stated that he saw a mother eagle stretch out her wings in the nest and the young eagles climbed onto her wings. She then flew down into a valley with the chicks on her wings. | |||
The eaglets jumped off her wings when she landed on the grass, and they played for a period of time. She later descended back into the valley, stretched out her wings again and the eaglets once more got onto her outstretched wings. She then flew back up to the nest with the eaglets on her wings back to the nest where they jumped off. | |||
We can state without doubt that William Branham never saw this take place. And we would challenge any followers of William Branham to send us scientific evidence that this actually took place in real life. | |||
Based on aerodynamic principles, an eagle would not be able to take off with a "whole wing full of eagles" as William Branham contended. They would disrupt the ability to create lift, particularly if the eagle could not flap her wings (she obviously couldn't with a bunch of baby eagles on her wings). | |||
We have confirmed this information with three different ornithologits (scientists who study birds) who specialize in the study of raptors and other birds of prey. | |||
As a result of the evidence, we are forced to conclude that William Branham was not telling the truth. He did not see what he claimed to have witnessed. The bigger questions is: What else did William Branham lie about? | |||
The apostle Peter warns us of teachers who make up false stories in 1 Peter 2:3: | |||
:'''''"...these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories."'''''<ref>The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), 2 Pe 2:3.</ref> | |||
=Quotes of William Branham= | =Quotes of William Branham= | ||
''Recently I was watching. I love birds. I was watching some eagles here not long ago when I was on a fishing trip, an old mother eagle, setting way on top of a mountain. And she threw her wings out, and the little eagles caught a hold of her wings, and she went down into the valley. It was the first time they’d ever been out of that old nest. | |||
''...Then I seen her take her little ones, and they caught a hold of her wings, and she went down the mountain into the valley, throwed out her big wings and the little eagles let loose. They begin to run around, their little feet touched for the first time upon soft ground, upon the grass. They eat green grass. “He leads me beside still water.” Oh, my, how glorious and wonderful. | |||
''Then, notice closely, when he was—they did that, then the little eagles… The old mother eagle, when she seen that, what was… She went plumb back up into the top of the mountains again, set down upon the rocks, begin to look down, watching those little eagles. | |||
''...After while, I seen her hold her head up, and she looked up, and she made a squall. All at once, she darted from that mountain, down into the valley. And when she went down there, she threw forth those great majestic wings and let out a scream. When she did, every one of those little eagles left off eating, run as quickly as they could to their mother, grabbed their little bill a hold of her wings, like that, with their bill, put their little feet in them wings. I wondered what was the matter. I couldn’t see it yet. But across the mountain come a hurricane that she could smell in the air and knew it was coming. She was watching over her brood. And then, before she could get off the ground, the storm was already sweeping down through the hollow. When she did, she pierced that storm blowing at sixty miles an hour. Those little eagles holding on to that mother’s wings. And right into the cleft of the rocks she went.<ref>William Branham, 50-0819 - Show Us The Father And It Suffices, para. 26-29</ref> | |||
''Here '''not long ago I was up in the mountains.''' I just love hunting. You know that. That’s my second nature, I’m a real Kentuckian; I got a squirrel rifle. See? And I just like to go hunting. I was way up in the mountains and I was watching up there, '''looking through the binoculars.''' Right at the time, I wasn’t hunting at the time, I was herding cattle. And I’ve worked cattle since I was a boy, so I go up there in the roundups and things, and I was watching down through a—a sight. '''I seen an old mother eagle.''' And she had a big nest up in the rock. It was along in the months, you know, after the little fellows had hatched out. And they were all walking around on this nest, and I spied that nest. The old mother was go take them out of the nest, and they were walking around there, you know, poor little old fellows. '''And she throwed her wings down like that and she, “Squawk!” made a squawk, and all them little eagles reached over, and took their little mouth, and set hold of them wings, got their little feet and held onto her wings.''' | ''Here '''not long ago I was up in the mountains.''' I just love hunting. You know that. That’s my second nature, I’m a real Kentuckian; I got a squirrel rifle. See? And I just like to go hunting. I was way up in the mountains and I was watching up there, '''looking through the binoculars.''' Right at the time, I wasn’t hunting at the time, I was herding cattle. And I’ve worked cattle since I was a boy, so I go up there in the roundups and things, and I was watching down through a—a sight. '''I seen an old mother eagle.''' And she had a big nest up in the rock. It was along in the months, you know, after the little fellows had hatched out. And they were all walking around on this nest, and I spied that nest. The old mother was go take them out of the nest, and they were walking around there, you know, poor little old fellows. '''And she throwed her wings down like that and she, “Squawk!” made a squawk, and all them little eagles reached over, and took their little mouth, and set hold of them wings, got their little feet and held onto her wings.''' | ||
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''That’s what we need today: huddle together. I don’t care if you’re this, that, or the other, let’s get together as Christian believers. Don’t separate yourselves; let’s get together. And the first thing you know, that old mother looked, when she knowed she’s about timed right, she let out a scream. And when she did those little eagles turned towards her. S'''he flew down into that valley''' like that, throwed out her great big wings. '''Those little fellows jumped upon that same wing.''' (Hallelujah. I thought, “Yes, sir. That’s right.”), '''jumped upon the same wing, took their bill, and caught hold of a feather, tucked their little paws, and hooked into the other feather. Up she lifted them''', up, up, up, up a piercing that storm, run right into the cleft of the rock down yonder, and hid those little fellows.<ref>William Branham, 53-1115A - Speak To The Rock, para. 65-69</ref> | ''That’s what we need today: huddle together. I don’t care if you’re this, that, or the other, let’s get together as Christian believers. Don’t separate yourselves; let’s get together. And the first thing you know, that old mother looked, when she knowed she’s about timed right, she let out a scream. And when she did those little eagles turned towards her. S'''he flew down into that valley''' like that, throwed out her great big wings. '''Those little fellows jumped upon that same wing.''' (Hallelujah. I thought, “Yes, sir. That’s right.”), '''jumped upon the same wing, took their bill, and caught hold of a feather, tucked their little paws, and hooked into the other feather. Up she lifted them''', up, up, up, up a piercing that storm, run right into the cleft of the rock down yonder, and hid those little fellows.<ref>William Branham, 53-1115A - Speak To The Rock, para. 65-69</ref> | ||
''One time I was herding some cattle, and I had pair of binoculars, and I got up on top the hill, and I was looking off. It was a beautiful sight, seeing God in His nature, how He was moving. And '''there was an old eagle had built some nest way up in some big thickets''', way up in the rocks is where she usually makes her nest. And I seen her. She was trying to get her little ones out of this nest. She’d throw out her wings like that and coo, coo. '''And I had a pair of ten power binoculars'''; I was watching for cattle on the range, so I could pick up where that old eagle was. I watched her. She was cooing to those little ones, and oh, if you ever was around an eagle’s nest, how it smells. '''And all those little eagles come out and got on her wings. She lifted them up out of there, brought them way down through the crevices, and down into the meadows, and set them out.''' | ''One time I was herding some cattle, and I had pair of binoculars, and I got up on top the hill, and I was looking off. It was a beautiful sight, seeing God in His nature, how He was moving. And '''there was an old eagle had built some nest way up in some big thickets''', way up in the rocks is where she usually makes her nest. And I seen her. She was trying to get her little ones out of this nest. She’d throw out her wings like that and coo, coo. '''And I had a pair of ten power binoculars'''; I was watching for cattle on the range, so I could pick up where that old eagle was. I watched her. She was cooing to those little ones, and oh, if you ever was around an eagle’s nest, how it smells. '''And all those little eagles come out and got on her wings. She lifted them up out of there, brought them way down through the crevices, and down into the meadows, and set them out.''' | ||
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''My, first thing you know, I seen this old eagle lift her head and sniff the air a few times. There was a northerner coming, and it comes quick. And before hardly a minute or two, the lightning was flashing, a black cloud was coming. She let out a scream and come off that rock; right down into that field she went, soared like a bullet, throwed them big wings out like that and begin to go screaming, chirping, and going on. '''Every one of those little eagles come just as fast as they could go, reached over and took a hold of feather with their mouth, caught on like that, caught their little paws in her wings. And she just lifted up that whole wing full of eagles''', away she went in that storm meeting her right in the face. She pressed right on in and went into the hole in the rock.<ref>William Branham, 54-0811 - Show Us The Father, para. 22-25</ref> | ''My, first thing you know, I seen this old eagle lift her head and sniff the air a few times. There was a northerner coming, and it comes quick. And before hardly a minute or two, the lightning was flashing, a black cloud was coming. She let out a scream and come off that rock; right down into that field she went, soared like a bullet, throwed them big wings out like that and begin to go screaming, chirping, and going on. '''Every one of those little eagles come just as fast as they could go, reached over and took a hold of feather with their mouth, caught on like that, caught their little paws in her wings. And she just lifted up that whole wing full of eagles''', away she went in that storm meeting her right in the face. She pressed right on in and went into the hole in the rock.<ref>William Branham, 54-0811 - Show Us The Father, para. 22-25</ref> | ||
''Now, some of them, them eagles stretch '''fourteen feet''', across the wing, wing spread. '''They could pick up a calf and pack it away'''.<ref>William Branham, 58-0500 - The Eagle Stirring Her Nest, para. 37</ref> | |||
'' Now, mother eagle says, “Get ready, children, I’m going to give you you’re solo flight this morning.” So she bats her big wings up, and each one of these little eagles climbs upon them big wings.<ref>William Branham, 60-0804 - As The Eagle Stirreth Up Her Nest, para. 57</ref> | |||
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