Question 3 (BM2) - Moving on to other issues... like the Bible: Difference between revisions

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==BM2 Response - Saturday, February 2, 2019 10:43 AM==

==BM2 - Wednesday, February 6, 2019 12:54 PM==

=BTS2 - Saturday, February 9, 2019, 11:47:36 AM=

:"But now the true trinity of God, being One manifested in Christ, Who was Life, and had broke the Seals and conquered the enemy, and rose up, the one true and living God. "I am He that was dead, and I'm alive forevermore, and have the keys of death and hell." God, in One, made Man, and dwelt among us, and conquered every enemy. And had proved that the trinity of Satan was conquered, and that the trinity of God was made known, 'cause only God alone had power to bring Life back again. He was that Emmanuel. God had been manifested in the flesh." 65-0418M IT.IS.THE.RISING.OF.THE.SUN (NOTE THE DATE)

:“…has sense enough to know ....that he wasn't contradicting himself in any way....by saying that GOD is a TRINITY!!!!”

And in your response, you are suggesting that there are multiple ways of using the word?  Awesome… it’s kind of like nailing Jello to a wall.  Even when Branham is clear and unequivocal in his sermons you decide that he didn’t contradict himself by saying exactly the opposite of what he previously said.

:“Elijah, after he'd bawled out Jezebel so much... We need another one today. That's right. Bawled her out... How the... We need one today. How the people... Oh, it's a disgrace, to what the people does today. It's just... And all of them call themselves Christians. And some of these fashions that our modern women are wearing, some of these women with them water-head haircuts, you know.”  GOD.HAS.A.PROVIDED.WAY_ VICTORIA.BC SATURDAY_ 62-0728

:“Elijah had cursed Jezebel about her painted face, and her way she had got all the people doing. And he was tired and weary, and was about ready to go Home.” THE.VOICE.OF.THE.SIGN BEAUMONT.TX 64-0313

It’s clear from what Branham taught that Elijah had confronted Jezebel several times. But is that true? What does the Bible say?

It is clear that Elijah RAN from Jezebel, but did he ever meet her face to face?

And what of Branham’s assertion that Jezebel was a harlot and a prostitute? Was she fed to the dogs for painting her eyes and adorning her head?  Here’s what the Bible says:

Do we think perhaps it was Ba’al worship and idolatry which condemned Jezebel as the Bible says?  Or was it that she painted her eyes and adorned her head as Branham asserts?

Remember that Branham spoke of women badly for adorning themselves with jewelry and fine clothing?

:“I said, "Then, sister, go home and wash your face or whatever you do." I said, "Do you mean to tell me that you'd let such a little thing as wearing a little of that old stuff on your face…" 85 And I can prove to you that that come from the devil. I can prove to you that nothing in the… The originate of it was heathens. And as long as you wear it, it's a mark of a heathen. Now, I just come back from Africa, and I've been in the Hottentot jungles and found out just exactly where earrings, where all that stuff come, and all this, a lot of jewelry wrapped your necks and ears and everything, where that comes from. It's the heathens. And the Bible don't want a Christian to be a heathen. And you don't want… I don't say that you are a heathen because you do it, but you're making yourself look like one. It's because your pastor didn't tell you the truth. The Bible said so.” William Branham, 56-0805 - The Church And Its Condition, para. 85

As with the misguided story which Branham told of Jezebel, was the Lord angry because of the fine clothes and jewelry?  Or was He correctly angry because women turn from God in pride?  

The book of Ezekiel will have to go! Snip snip snip… what a thin book the Bible becomes when you eliminate the books with which Branham disagrees.

We see a lot of things which Branham taught that mis-used scripture throughout his ministry. And a sure indicator scripturally of a false prophet is teaching that which does not align with scripture.

So, did Branham displace the Bible? Do his words supersede the very Word of God?

We do what the Bible tells us we should do:

It will at least be entertaining to see your next reply.

You asked >>>>So, I want to be sure I understand… William Branham didn’t say those things? William Branham didn’t first teach the Trinity, then he called the Trinity of Satan, then from what you just told me, Branham didn’t use the word Trinity here to describe God’s nature:

And in your response, you are suggesting that there are multiple ways of using the word?  Awesome… it’s kind of like nailing Jello to a wall. Even when Branham is clear and unequivocal in his sermons you decide that he didn’t contradict himself by saying exactly the opposite of what he previously said.

You said >>>>And I notice you didn’t mention the first example, Branham speaking about “the Africa campaign”.

You said >>>>It’s clear from what Branham taught that Elijah had confronted Jezebel several times. But is that true?  What does the Bible say?

I say.....William Branham didn't say that Elijah met with Jezebel face to face. You sure spin things to fit your twist. Elijah spoke/preached.... against the condition of the times...that Jezebel's influence had brought the Nation of Israel to. Obviously by recorded Scripture.... she had heard that Elijah had condemned her.... for her acts against the Laws of GOD. Your reference to Ezekiel 16:1-14..... as an excuse for your women to look like someone.... who went through a jewelry store with a magnet on.... is ludicrous.  It is an analogy pertaining to the city of Jerusalem. It most certainly IS NOT A GOD GIVEN LICENSE..... for women to dress in Canaanite immodesty. Jezebel dressed and painted her face in the tradition of her heathen identification.Surely you aren't that ignorant of the Scriptural teachings by Paul and Peter ...pertaining to modest apparel  and fancy adornings. You sure go to some low lifestyle spins...to justify your hate agenda for William Branham! He didn't invent Holiness....GOD DID!

To use your twisted spin on how women should dress by referring to Jerusalem and then try to make it the will of GOD...shows me that somewhere..... you have really gotten off of the path of Holiness. Of course you couldn't stand for Bible Holiness...since the women of your so called freedom from William Branham...wouldn't let you do so....without putting their foot down on your neck. Evidently you have only searched the Scriptures .....that you want to hear.

  1 Tim. 2:9

:Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. 5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: 6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.

=BTS2 - Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 10:48 AM=

Since we don’t have an assembly, since we aren’t a church, it would be at best difficult for anyone to place their foot on my neck.  Again, we don’t have a group. You’ll understand that over time I trust.

And I have a full understanding of modesty of women, and revere it. But there is nothing in the scripture which you present which tells me that women in the message should wear only skirts and dresses of a certain length, only that their dress should be modest.  There is nothing which you have provided which tells me why makeup is unholy.  There is nothing which you have presented which speaks to the length of sleeves, etc.  Branham added his judgement (notice I didn’t say he offered scriptural reference, I said he judged) to scripture.  At best what he suggested is extra-scriptural.  At worst it is anti-scriptural.  And, I agree that modesty is of first importance.  And when God clothed Israel, there was nothing immodest about the things which were described in scripture.  God did not punish Jezebel because she dressed immodestly, despite what William Branham asserted.  Jezebel was destroyed because of her idol worship.  And you suggest that I twist scripture?

But we move along.

To this point, you have steadfastly refused to speak about how in scripture a prophet actually qualifies as a prophet of God. And this point is important.

But I wanted to pause our discussion about books of the Bible where Branham disagrees with scripture in plain writing, or where he teaches that which is not scriptural (I promise we will return to that).  I want to take the examination of a prophet from another perspective.  I want to be clear… we know scripturally why the people which I am about to list ARE NOT TRUE PROPHETS OF GOD.  So, let there be no confusion about that.

Here is a list of people who claim to be prophets.  Some of these people are actually from the message of William Branham who claim that Branham was not the “last” prophet messenger, and who actually call their ministries “Capstone” ministries.  On the list, the first four are “message” ministers who claim that they now are the “final” prophet messenger as Branham claimed. But each and every one of these people have a congregation of people who claim that they too have a “revelation” and have had personal experiences, and that these people are indeed prophets of God:

Builders of Adytum

House of Yahweh

:Buffalo Bill "Yisrayl" Hawkins

Church of Bible Understanding

Since you are having difficulty telling us how a prophet of God qualifies scripturally, could you please enlighten us… tell us how these people scripturally do not?  Remember, they each have a congregation which will tell you that they have a “revelation” that these people ARE true prophets sent by God. Many in their assemblies knew these prophets personally and saw many great works and wonders. Maybe if we could understand how these people ARE NOT prophets, it would help us understand how Branham IS one.