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 Dear ABM,
-I am enjoying our dialogue.  You indicated that you were not trying to change my mind, and my view is also that I am not trying to get you to renounce William Branham as a prophet.  My primary intention is to engage in a dialogue that will cause those in the message to have a better understanding as to why many are leaving, and will continue to leave, the message.
+I am enjoying our dialogue.  You indicated that you were not trying to change my mind, and my primary intention is not to get you to renounce William Branham as a prophet.  However, I am interesting in engaging in a dialogue that will cause those in the message to have a better understanding as to why many are leaving and will continue to leave.  I also think that our case against William Branham is very strong and want to ensure that our conclusions have been vetted by someone who follows William Branham.  While many in the message have written off our views as trivial and not being able to withstand scrutiny, what we have found in practice is that message ministers almost as a whole have not examined our concerns in any serious way and this is a significant disservice to those in their congregations.  I hope that our dialogue will cause some message ministers to more closely examine our concerns.
 I have stated that William Branham was a persistent liar with respect to many experiences that he related over the pulpit, and I will likely get back to additional examples of this later.  You prefer to use the word "exaggerate" but you also have stated that you understand why I believe William Branham lied.
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 William Branham stated many times (see the list of quotes below) that the Bible compared God's prophets to eagles.  However, he never provided one scriptural example of where this was the case.  Here are a few of William Branham's quotes on the subject of eagles and prophets:
-:''“Before God moves to action, like He did in the days of Noah, he sent forth an Eagle.  When he brought Israel, and Pharaoh’s army was ready to go, He sent an eagle.  Every time, He sends an eagle at the last, end of it.  And here He sends an eagle, again.”'' (William Branham, the [[Fifth Seal]])
+:''“Before God moves to action, like He did in the days of Noah, he sent forth an Eagle.  When he brought Israel, and Pharaoh’s army was ready to go, He sent an eagle.  Every time, He sends an eagle at the last, end of it.  And here He sends an eagle, again.”'' (63-0322, The [[Fifth Seal]])
 :''A prophet in the Bible is a eagle. He goes higher than other birds, and he can see way off, things coming.<ref>HEAR.YE.HIM_  CHATTANOOGA.TN  SATURDAY_  58-0301E</ref>
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 To reiterate, the eagle is NEVER used as a reference to prophetic wisdom or vision.  It is not a type of a prophet in scripture.  There are ZERO prophets or seers that are likened to an eagle.
-This is a clear example of William Branham's teaching being in disagreement with the Bible.
+William Branham states the following, all of which are not biblical:
+*"Before God moves to action, like He did in the days of Noah, he sent forth an Eagle.'' - '''there is nothing in the Bible to substantiate this.'''
+*''A prophet in the Bible is a eagle.'' - '''This is simply not true.'''
+*''The Bible likens His prophets to being eagles.'' - '''This is false.'''
+*''Everyone knows that a prophet is called the eagle, in the Bible.'' - Actually, anyone who does know the Bible is aware that this statement is false.
+An old friend of our family, William Booth-Clibborn, once told William Branham, "Brother Branham, you just don’t know your Bible.” (61-0218 - Balm In Gilead) . I personally think his statement was correct.  William Branham's understanding of scripture was significantly flawed.  He was a fan of proof texts and would take passages of the Bible completely out of context to support his own views.  He would read his thoughts into the Bible rather allowing scripture to speak from the plain meaning of the text.
+The example of the eagle and the prophet is a clear example of William Branham's teaching being in disagreement with the Bible.
-If in something simple like this - what the Bible means when it refers to eagles - why should I trust William Branham in his other scriptural interpretation?
+My question is - if William Branham could be so off base in a simple concept like this - what the Bible means when it refers to eagles - why should I trust him in his other scriptural interpretation?