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=Where did William Branham say he got his revelation from?=
=Where did William Branham say he got his revelation from?=


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We have overwhelming evidence that William Branham read and studied the books of Larkin and other men from whom he copied his sermons on the seals. Yet, William Branham goes on to make statements like the following when he preached the seals:
We have overwhelming evidence that William Branham read and studied the books of Larkin and other men from whom he copied his sermons on the seals. Yet, William Branham goes on to make statements like the following when he preached the seals:


Now notice, now, in the 9th verse, “Souls under the altar.” Now, here is where I’m going to get some real disagreeings. But you just watch just a minute. And just…See? I thought that, too, but it didn’t come that way. We have…I have always thought that these souls under the altar were the—the—the martyrs of the early Church. And I’m sure that, well, Dr. Uriah Smith, and every one of them, says it is. See? But, I thought so, myself. But when the Holy Spirit showed the vision to it, it wasn’t.<ref>William Branham, 63-0322 - The Fifth Seal</ref>
:''Now notice, now, in the 9th verse, “Souls under the altar.” Now, here is where I’m going to get some real disagreeings. But you just watch just a minute. And just…See? I thought that, too, but it didn’t come that way. We have…I have always thought that these souls under the altar were the—the—the martyrs of the early Church. And I’m sure that, well, Dr. Uriah Smith, and every one of them, says it is. See? But, I thought so, myself. But when the Holy Spirit showed the vision to it, it wasn’t.<ref>William Branham, 63-0322 - The Fifth Seal</ref>


==Conclusion==
==Conclusion==


William Branham misled his audience. Did “every one of them” say the souls under the altar were martyrs of the Christian church? No, and he knew they did not all say that. William Branham was dishonest during the sermon on the fifth seal. He knew Clarence Larkin taught the souls under the altar were Jewish martyrs. Why was he pretending he was teaching the people something never known before? Why was he pretending that he received this knowledge from Holy Spirit when he was clearly repeating what he read in one of his library books.
William Branham misled his audience. Did “every one of them” say the souls under the altar were martyrs of the Christian church? No, and he knew they did not all say that. William Branham was dishonest during the sermon on the fifth seal. He knew Clarence Larkin taught the souls under the altar were Jewish martyrs. Why was he pretending he was teaching the people something never known before? Why was he pretending that he received this knowledge from Holy Spirit when he was clearly repeating what he read in one of his library books.
=Confusion - Christians under the Altar?=
William Branham then tells a story of how he went to a heavenly place, and saw his own converts under the altar. He tells of the white-robed saints in “that heavenly place” that he saw in a vision.  But Jesus was not there!  It was a mixture of purgatory, and souls under the altar:
:''I want to see Jesus... You can’t see him now, He is still higher... You mean, by being a leader, that He’ll judge me?  Said, “Yes” I said, “what about Paul?”  He said, “He’ll have to be judged with his.” “Well” I said, if his group goes in, so will mine, ‘cause I’ve preached exactly the same Word.” ...nd millions screamed out, all at once, said, “We’re resting on that!” …See, '''we was right under the altar.'''<Ref>William Branham, 63-0322 - The Fifth Seal, para. 391, 401-404, 410</ref>
The most notable person absent from this place was Jesus, making “that heavenly place” a waiting place, while the people wait for William Branham to be judged. 
==It must have been another altar?==
Later in the sermon William Branham talks about two altars in heaven, to diffuse the confusion between the Jews and his followers: 
:''“The Bride, she was not under the martyrs’ block, not, the sacrifice altar of the martyrs; but had received white robes, by accepting the pardoning grace of the living Word.”''
What William Branham does with this statement is commit some major errors:
#He ignores the fact that Revelation 6:9 says that the souls were under '''“THE”''' altar (there is only one altar mentioned in this scripture, and a 'martyr's altar' is never mentioned in scriptures);
#He ignores the fact that there were many Christian martyrs, and that the Bride will include many people who were martyred;
#He ignores what he previously said about the souls being Jews; and
#He refers to the “pardoning grace of the living Word”.  Just one night prior he had called his own words “spirit and life” as evidenced by his ability to create squirrels (though no-one was around to witness this).  That means he is making his own words the door to pardoning grace.


=Clear Examples of Direct Plagiarism=
=Clear Examples of Direct Plagiarism=
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|They were killed for the Word of God's sake, not for the testimony of Christ. Did you understand that? But remember, the church come in. Also the martyrs of the church was for the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. How many knows that here too? All right now...  But these didn't have the testimony of Jesus Christ "… Now, notice. These Jews... I have to do this in order to--to let you see the revelation of this Seal, see what it is, these souls under the altar and who they are.
|They were '''killed for the Word of God's sake''', not for the testimony of Christ. Did you understand that? But remember, the church come in. Also the martyrs of the church was for the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ. How many knows that here too? All right now...  But these didn't have the testimony of Jesus Christ "… Now, notice. These Jews... I have to do this in order to--to let you see the revelation of this Seal, see what it is, these souls under the altar and who they are.
|When the Lamb had opened the “FIFTH SEAL,” John saw under the “Sacrificial Altar,” corresponding to the “Burnt Offering Altar,” the “SOULS” of them that were slain for the “Word of God” and for the “testimony they held.” The fact that their “SOULS” were under the “Sacrificial Altar” is proof that they had been offered as a “Sacrifice,” that is that they were MARTYRS. But they were not the Martyrs of the Christian Church... These Martyrs are those who will be killed for the “Word of God”
|When the Lamb had opened the “FIFTH SEAL,” John saw under the “Sacrificial Altar,” corresponding to the “Burnt Offering Altar,” the “SOULS” of them that were slain for the “Word of God” and for the “testimony they held.” The fact that their “SOULS” were under the “Sacrificial Altar” is proof that they had been offered as a “Sacrifice,” that is that they were MARTYRS. But they were not the Martyrs of the Christian Church... These Martyrs are those who will be '''killed for the “Word of God.”'''
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|Notice, they asked for revenge. See? Now, if that had been the Bride, it'd been like '''Stephen''': "Father, forgive them," you know. See? But these are Jews that just come in. See? They asked for revenge.
|Notice, they asked for revenge. See? Now, if that had been the Bride, it'd been like '''Stephen''': "Father, forgive them," you know. See? But these are Jews that just come in. See? They asked for revenge.
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William Branham also tells a story about Joseph giving his brothers white robes in this sermon.  It is likely from this story that some Message Believers think that Moses and Elijah will arise and translate the sermon of the Seven Seals into Hebrew after the rapture.  So, perhaps his message really is one of the false ministries to watch for.   
William Branham also tells a story about Joseph giving his brothers white robes in this sermon.  It is likely from this story that some Message Believers think that Moses and Elijah will arise and translate the sermon of the Seven Seals into Hebrew after the rapture.  So, perhaps his message really is one of the false ministries to watch for.   
=Other issues=
==Confusion - Christians under the Altar?==
William Branham then tells a story of how he went to a heavenly place, and saw his own converts under the altar. He tells of the white-robed saints in “that heavenly place” that he saw in a vision.  But Jesus was not there!  It was a mixture of purgatory, and souls under the altar:
:''I want to see Jesus... You can’t see him now, He is still higher... You mean, by being a leader, that He’ll judge me?  Said, “Yes” I said, “what about Paul?”  He said, “He’ll have to be judged with his.” “Well” I said, if his group goes in, so will mine, ‘cause I’ve preached exactly the same Word.” ...nd millions screamed out, all at once, said, “We’re resting on that!” …See, '''we was right under the altar.'''<Ref>William Branham, 63-0322 - The Fifth Seal, para. 391, 401-404, 410</ref>
The most notable person absent from this place was Jesus, making “that heavenly place” a waiting place, while the people wait for William Branham to be judged. 
===It must have been another altar?===
Later in the sermon William Branham talks about two altars in heaven, to diffuse the confusion between the Jews and his followers: 
:''“The Bride, she was not under the martyrs’ block, not, the sacrifice altar of the martyrs; but had received white robes, by accepting the pardoning grace of the living Word.”''
What William Branham does with this statement is commit some major errors:
#He ignores the fact that Revelation 6:9 says that the souls were under '''“THE”''' altar (there is only one altar mentioned in this scripture, and a 'martyr's altar' is never mentioned in scriptures);
#He ignores the fact that there were many Christian martyrs, and that the Bride will include many people who were martyred;
#He ignores what he previously said about the souls being Jews; and
#He refers to the “pardoning grace of the living Word”.  Just one night prior he had called his own words “spirit and life” as evidenced by his ability to create squirrels (though no-one was around to witness this).  That means he is making his own words the door to pardoning grace.


==Other controversial comments==
==Other controversial comments==
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This Angel simply compared himself to other servants, prophets, and ALL WHO OBEY what's written in the book; thus declaring that he must not be worshipped.  '''Scripture never says that this angel is a man and never states that he is a prophet who walked on the earth either in the past or future.'''  Why would William Branham think that this was referring to him?  Doesn't that come across as being just a little presumptuous?
This Angel simply compared himself to other servants, prophets, and ALL WHO OBEY what's written in the book; thus declaring that he must not be worshipped.  '''Scripture never says that this angel is a man and never states that he is a prophet who walked on the earth either in the past or future.'''  Why would William Branham think that this was referring to him?  Doesn't that come across as being just a little presumptuous?
=Moving to the Next Seal=


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=Video Transcript=
 
In the introduction to his sermon on the Fifth Seal, William Branham clearly states the source of his revelation:
 
:''...if He would not reveal It to me, I could not give It to you. I’m not trying to use any of my own thoughts or anything; just as He will give It. That’s right. And I—I’m sure, if I don’t use my own thoughts, and It comes in the way It has. And all through life It’s never been wrong. It won’t be wrong this time.
 
:''...today, '''not knowing one thing about that Fifth Seal''', It came in that same mysterious way, this morning, just about an hour before daybreak, when I was out in prayer.<ref>63-0322 - The Fifth Seal, para. 5, 26</ref>
 
He also makes it clear that his revelation disagreed with everyone else and with everything he had read on the subject:
 
:''Now, here is where I’m going to get some real disagreeings. But you just watch just a minute. And just... See? I thought that, too, but it didn’t come that way. We have... I have always thought that these souls under the altar were the—the—the martyrs of the early Church. And I’m sure that, well, Dr. Uriah Smith, and '''every one of them, says it is'''. See? But, I thought so, myself. '''But when the Holy Spirit showed the vision to it, it wasn’t; it isn’t the souls.'''<ref>63-0322 - The Fifth Seal, para. 215</ref>
 
William Branham wanted his followers to clearly understand that he received his revelation directly from God and didn’t get it from someone else’s book.
 
So what was the revelation that came to William Branham?
 
:''Now, these cannot be them souls. Because, the—the souls of the—of the righteous, martyred, and the righteous people, the Church, the Bride, has done been took up, so they wouldn’t be under the altar. They would be in Glory, with the Bride. Now watch. For, they are gone in the Rapture, in the 4th chapter of Revelation. They was taken up. Now, who are these souls, then? That’s the next thing. Who are they, then, if they’re not the early Church? '''This is Israel''' that’s to be saved as a nation, all them that are predestinated. That’s Israel. That’s Israel, itself. <ref>63-0322 - The Fifth Seal, para. 220-221</ref>
 
It is interesting that William Branham states that he looked at all of his books and none of them had his understanding. 
 
We have seen that William Branham had Clarence Larkin’s books.  Let’s take a look at what Clarence Larkin had to say:
 
:''The removal of the Church at the end of the third chapter opens the way for God to renew His dealings with '''Israel''', and take up the broken thread of Jewish History.<ref>Clarence Larkin, The Book of Revelation: A Study of the Last Prophetic Book of Holy Scripture (Philadelphia, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate, 1919), 32.</ref>
:''The fact that their “SOULS” were under the “Sacrificial Altar” is proof that they had been offered as a “Sacrifice,” that is that they were MARTYRS. But '''they were not the Martyrs of the Christian Church'''...<ref>Clarence Larkin, The Book of Revelation: A Study of the Last Prophetic Book of Holy Scripture (Philadelphia, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate, 1919), 58</ref>
:''...these Martyrs whose SOULS are seen are mainly JEWS. This is still more likely when we consider that the “Gospel of the Kingdom” is to be preached to the NATIONS, and '''Israel''' has never been numbered among the Nations.<ref>Clarence Larkin, The Book of Revelation: A Study of the Last Prophetic Book of Holy Scripture (Philadelphia, PA: Rev. Clarence Larkin Estate, 1919), 59</ref> 
 
William Branham and Clarence Larkin have an identical interpretation of who the souls under the altar are. They both say those are the souls of Jewish martyrs waiting for their brethren and fellow servants (also Jews) to be killed during the tribulation.
 
How did Clarence Larkin get that revelation in 1919 when the fifth seal was not opened until 1963?
 
How do we mesh this with William Branham’s statement that all of the theologians that he had read taught that the souls under the altar were martyrs of the Christian church?  We know William Branham read Clarence Larkin. 


Was William Branham intentionally misleading his listeners?
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