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::Read more about the vision of the Third Pull and the Second Tent Vision at http://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Third_Pull
::Read more about the vision of the Third Pull and the Second Tent Vision at http://en.believethesign.com/index.php?title=Third_Pull
*January 11, 2013
::Is the Third Pull the First Temptation?
::One common interpretation among message believers is that the Third Pull will ultimately manifest among believers as the ability to speak things into existence. This interpretation is primarily based on William Branham's testimony that he created squirrels into existence by his own spoken word, through the instruction of an angelic voice.
::The danger with this expectation is that it forgets Jesus' first temptation in the wilderness: when the Devil tempted Jesus to use his supernatural powers to create bread from stones in order to satisfy his own hunger. Sadly, this temptation is exactly what message believers are expecting to do in the future. If the tempter came to a message believer with instructions to create bread or squirrels from stones, they would likely give in to the devil in a moment's time - because they would follow William Branham's example and not the example left to them by Jesus Christ, who alone had dominion over the devil's temptations.
::"And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." (Matthew 4:2-4)
::http://en.believethesign.com/index.php/Third_Pull


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*October 2, 2012
*October 2, 2012
::Were the deaths of 16 men in a construction accident on the Municipal Bridge foretold by a young boy named William Branham 22 years before it happened? Here are the facts - http://youtu.be/QPxLLO61lE4
::Were the deaths of 16 men in a construction accident on the Municipal Bridge foretold by a young boy named William Branham 22 years before it happened? Here are the facts - http://youtu.be/QPxLLO61lE4
*December 23, 2012
::William Branham's bridge vision does not match with recorded history. Some people have told us that this is because he saw the vision as a child, and he didn't remember things exactly when he retold the story years later. Blaming the problems with the Bridge vision on the passing of time is an uncomfortable argument for two reasons. First, it does not stay with the tapes. Second, it brings into question the accuracy of all of William Branham's visions that occurred before the tape recordings started.
::For example, William Branham said that the bridge vision occurred two weeks after a voice spoke to him from a tree. If the facts of the bridge vision distorted over time, how do you know that the instruction of the "voice from the tree" didn't also distort over time?
::Here are both stories told together:
::"At the age of about seven years old, I was packing water one day from a well. And I passed by a tree. I was weeping. I didn't want to pack the water. I wanted to go fishing with the rest of the children. But when I heard something in the tree, like the roaring of a wind, I looked up. I seen nothing but just a place in the tree about that big around, roaring around...and none of the rest of the leaves were shaking. And I heard a voice of a Man up there, said, "Don't never drink. Don't drink, and don't never smoke, or defile yourself with women, for there is a work for you to do when you get older." Oh, I was scared. I dropped my bucket, and I ran to the house, screaming. And I jumped in my mother's arms. And she... I said there's a Man in that tree. They went down to look: nobody there. They called the doctor, and he said I was just nervous. I said--I said, "No, I seen, and I heard him speak." And I never would go by that tree. A little later on, about two weeks later I was playing marbles with my brother, and I felt something come to me. We lived up on a hill, and the river was below us: a wilderness around. And I saw a bridge come up out of the wilderness. And it started across the river. Sixteen men dropped off in--into the water and perished. And I seen a big sign, it said "twenty-two years." I run in and told my mother.
(My Life Story, Zurich, Switzerland, June 26, 1955)
::Solomon said, "The simple believes every word: but the prudent man looks well where he is going." Proverbs 14:15


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::In March 2012, Nasa launched five rockets off the east coast of the USA to create some of these clouds. These clouds formed rings that look like the May 1963 Life magazine photo. http://www.gizmag.com/nasa-tracer-rockets-form-ringed-clouds-at-the-edge-of-space/21972/pictures#12
::In March 2012, Nasa launched five rockets off the east coast of the USA to create some of these clouds. These clouds formed rings that look like the May 1963 Life magazine photo. http://www.gizmag.com/nasa-tracer-rockets-form-ringed-clouds-at-the-edge-of-space/21972/pictures#12
*January 12, 2013
::"No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse." (Mark 2:21)
::The story of the Cloud on Sunset Mountain has worn out. Some people have taken the time to examine the claims of William Branham and Pearry Green, and have found their stories to be in error. Rather than acknowledging these researchers, or admitting the original error, Pearry Green has revised the story over time. Like a new patch on an old garment, this will only serve to make the original errors more obvious.
::The most recent revision to Pearry Greene's book "The Acts of a Prophet" was revised in 2011. While we have not seen this recent revision, John Kennah has and it appears that Pearry Green has copied certain information directly from John Kennah's website without any attribution as to its source. This is referred to as plagiarism. You can look at John Kennah's post on this topic at http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/main.asp?webtag=kennah&nav=messages&msg=3143.1&prettyurl=%2Fkennah%2Fmessages%3Fmsg%3D3143.1&gid=250495597
*January 13, 2013
::Why did William Branham state that the cloud was directly above him when it appeared 8 days earlier 200 miles away? If your child bent the truth this badly, what would you call it?
::"And the blast did just exactly the way It said it. Is that right, Brother Fred? And I--I--I must have jumped way off of the ground. And just above me was the Angels of the Lord that sent Message back, for me to come here to break these Seals... And, now, I didn't know at the time, that they were taking pictures of that, scientists was, as the Angels lowered themselves from Heaven, to bring the Message... How many saw, "A mysterious cloud in the sky"? You see the hands. And now the Life magazine picked it up. And I have the--the article here this morning, in the Life magazine, of to show. Now here It is, the same time I was there. See the pyramid of the Cloud? I was standing just below this." (June 23, 1963)
::This is from our article on the Cloud at http://en.believethesign.com/index.php/The_Cloud


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*December 8, 2012
*December 8, 2012
::Genuine faith loves a good challenge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEvuJ9yYCXM&feature=plcp
::Genuine faith loves a good challenge. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEvuJ9yYCXM&feature=plcp
*December 19, 2012
::"I must assert in the most unqualified way that it is primarily and mainly for the sake of saving the soul that I seek the salvation of the body. But what is the use of preaching the Gospel to men whose whole attention is concentrated upon a mad, desperate struggle to keep themselves alive? It is impossible to comfort men's hearts with the love of God when their feet are perishing with cold." ~ William Booth (Founder of the Salvation Army)
*January 4, 2013
::Truth can be part of a lie, but a lie cannot be part of the truth. ~ Waxer Tipton
*January 6, 2013
::"Remember, Jesus still promises us Living Waters, not just water, nor still or stagnant water which remind you of an old swamp overgrown with greens slime - some putrid duck pond without inlet or outlet. Such placid, quiet waters are never any good; for water without a flow is dead! It is living waters he has promised! Sparkling, tumbling, foaming, rushing torrents of crystal, pure, mountain spring water! Surging, dashing, plunging rapids of glorious life giving virtue! Streams from the highlands of Heaven! A whole countryside of moving rivers! God grant you rivers!" ~ William Booth-Clibborn, My Cup Runneth Over


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::Studying the underlying Hebrew words suggest that is more to this scripture than just a simple comparison. In most of the alternative interpretations, it puts more responsibility on the man and not on the woman.
::Studying the underlying Hebrew words suggest that is more to this scripture than just a simple comparison. In most of the alternative interpretations, it puts more responsibility on the man and not on the woman.
*January 3, 2013
::How much of Message doctrine has its origins in the Jehovah Witness movement? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9LYg2DaSZ4


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|<h2 style="margin:0;background-color:#cedff2;font-size:120%;font-weight:bold;border:1px solid #a3b0bf;text-align:left;color:#000;padding:0.2em 0.4em;">Church Ages, Seven Seals & Clarence Larkin</h2>
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::The word for "pale" in Greek is "chloros". The only other uses in the Bible for the word chloros are Mark 6:39 (And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass), Revelation 8:7b (...and all green grass was burnt up), and Revelation 9:4 (And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing...).
::The word for "pale" in Greek is "chloros". The only other uses in the Bible for the word chloros are Mark 6:39 (And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass), Revelation 8:7b (...and all green grass was burnt up), and Revelation 9:4 (And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing...).
*January 7, 2013
::"The Gates to the 'Soul' are 'Imagination', 'Conscience', 'Memory', 'Reason' and the 'Affections'."
~ Clarence Larkin, 1921, Rightly Dividing the Word (88).
::"The soul is imagination, conscience, memory, reason, and affection, is the senses or the attributes, or like the senses of the soul."
~ William Branham, Jan. 8 1961, Sermon: Revelation 4
*January 10, 2013
::“His Voice as the SOUND OF MANY WATERS.” There is nothing more melodious or musical than the babbling brook, or more thunderous than the rush of the cataract over the falls, and there is nothing more fearful to the criminal than the words of the Judge as he passes sentence; but how terrifying will be the sentence when with a strong voice the Son of Man shall say in the Judgment Day, “Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the Devil and his angels.” (Clarence Larkin, The Book of Revelation, 1919)
::"Voice of many waters." What does waters represent? …Now, you drifting soul, you poor drifter that's drifting over that great cataract yonder, be careful. It'll be a horrible thing when you know that there's no saving for you then. You can't get saved then; you know your doom lays right before you. When you know within a few minutes you'll hear that voice speak out, "Depart from Me, you workers of iniquity, into everlasting fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels." …To the sinner He's a horrible cataract, and a loose soul upon the sea of life. And to the church, a sweet Saviour, anchored in rest, and hearing the bubbling brook as you lay and rest perfectly satisfied in Christ. (The Patmos Vision, December 4, 1960)
::William Branham used the word “cataract” in his recorded sermons 119 times prior to the sermon “The Patmos Vision”, and all in reference to blindness. He then used the word “cataract” in reference to a waterfall 5 times in the sermon “The Patmos Vision”. After this sermon he used the word cataract in reference to a waterfall 3 times, and in reference to a blindness 17 times. William Branham also used the phrase “bubbling brook” only once in all of his recorded sermons – in the sermon “The Patmos Vision”. What does this mean? It means that this word was not in his vocabulary before he read and preached Clarence Larkin’s interpretation on the meaning of “the voice of many waters” in the book of Revelation.
:;This is one example of many of how William Branham’s greatest “Revelations” actually came from a modern Baptist theologian.


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::Also, Irenaeus opposed tithing for Christians. Charlemagne (the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire) was the first ruler to legalize Christian tithing.
::Also, Irenaeus opposed tithing for Christians. Charlemagne (the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire) was the first ruler to legalize Christian tithing.
*January 13, 2013
::The scripture in the Bible that says, "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord" (Ephesians 5:22) is immediately preceded by the command, "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God." (Ephesians 5:21). Later on in this chapter, Paul talks about how a husband should love his wife, "even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it" (Ephesians 5:25). Jesus Christ won the Church by love, as demonstrated by his sacrifice. If you are a husband, are you following this example?


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*December 1, 2012
*December 1, 2012
::We are in contact with a lot of people who have left the message. Where do these people go? Here’s a peek at what one family is doing as they embrace their new identity as non-message Christians. When you watch this video, remember that Jesus can be found on both sides of the table: http://vimeo.com/54558200
::We are in contact with a lot of people who have left the message. Where do these people go? Here’s a peek at what one family is doing as they embrace their new identity as non-message Christians. When you watch this video, remember that Jesus can be found on both sides of the table: http://vimeo.com/54558200
*December 20, 2012
::A few questions for ministers in the Message (feel free to share):
#When you officiate a wedding, do you yell at the bride just in case she isn't listening? If you think that would be inappropriate, do you routinely yell at the Bride of Christ each Sunday?
#Do you attack sin with a zester, spending hour after hour scoring the hide and grating the emotions of your congregation? If the people who remain the longest in your congregation are the ones having the most trouble with sin, you likely have never spoken to their heart.
#If the above questions describe you, will you change?


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