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William Branham taught that: | {{Bad Interpretation}} | ||
<br>William Branham taught that: | |||
*Noah and Enoch were preaching at the same time; | *Noah and Enoch were preaching at the same time; | ||
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=Did Noah watch Enoch?= | =Did Noah watch Enoch?= | ||
William Branham believed that Noah and Enoch were both on the earth at the same time and were both preaching at the same time: | |||
*''There was Noah and Enoch preaching at the same time.'' (56-0115) | |||
*''Noah kept watching Enoch. When Enoch went, Noah said, "Better get close to the ark. The time is at hand."'' (63-0320) | |||
But William Branham's understanding is completely contrary to what the Bible says. | |||
If you make a time line chart based on Genesis Chapter 5, you will find that '''Enoch was taken by God''': | If you make a time line chart based on Genesis Chapter 5, you will find that '''Enoch was taken by God''': | ||
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Noah was 500 years old when his 3 sons were born and the Flood started when he was 600 years old (or in year 1656, if you count Adam's creation as year 0). Given that Noah is 500 years old at the end of Genesis 4 and that he was subsequently told to build the ark after this, he was told to build the ark at sometime after his 500th buirthday. | |||
It is interesting to note that Methuselah died the same year that the Flood started. | |||
==Where did William Branham get this from?== | ==Where did William Branham get this from?== | ||
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=Quotes= | =Quotes= | ||
==Noah and Enoch== | |||
:''Now, as I've just said that the antediluvian destruction, Noah was the sign. And '''Noah had a sign to start on. When he seen Enoch was taken up, Enoch was taken up, then Noah--was time Noah to start''', for he knew that that would be the sign of his beginning and then the end would be near.<ref>GREAT.COMING.REVIVAL CHICAGO.IL 54-0718A</ref> | :''Now, as I've just said that the antediluvian destruction, Noah was the sign. And '''Noah had a sign to start on. When he seen Enoch was taken up, Enoch was taken up, then Noah--was time Noah to start''', for he knew that that would be the sign of his beginning and then the end would be near.<ref>GREAT.COMING.REVIVAL CHICAGO.IL 54-0718A</ref> | ||
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:''Now, now, we're just taking it in all kinds of symbols now like the--the church, Noah, the carried over type, went on out into sin. See? Now, they did go over, but Enoch went first. That was the type of the saints that would go in the--in--before the tribulation period.<ref>THE.FOURTH.SEAL JEFF.IN 63-0321</ref> | :''Now, now, we're just taking it in all kinds of symbols now like the--the church, Noah, the carried over type, went on out into sin. See? Now, they did go over, but Enoch went first. That was the type of the saints that would go in the--in--before the tribulation period.<ref>THE.FOURTH.SEAL JEFF.IN 63-0321</ref> | ||
==Enoch was the seventh from Adam== | |||
:''Now, go back unto the 5th chapter (I think it is) of Genesis, and then go also, over into the Book of Luke (wish I could find it; I wrote it all down here, if I could find it in here) and you’ll find out that in the genealogies, nowhere in the Bible…If…Look! If Noah…If Enoch is the seventh from Adam, the Bible said, “Adam and then his son Seth,” because Cain was not Adam’s seed. It said Adam begot Seth, and Seth begot…Jared; Jared begot, all the way down to Enoch; and Enoch was the seventh from Adam. Nowhere did it ever speak that Cain was ever considered to be anything in the genealogies of God. | |||
:''Now, just look and find out if it’s so or not; search it out. And Luke comes over and names it right back again, and puts down from Adam. Not one time is Cain ever mentioned in the whole thing. And if Enoch (see?) was the seventh from Adam, where did Cain come in? Because the Bible said that, in the genealogies, that Adam begot his son, Seth. And Seth begot Jared, and Jared begot So-and-so, on down; and not one time was Cain ever mentioned. Then he could not be the son of Adam. So he had to be the son of the serpent, and he couldn’t be a son without intercourse. Amen! If he wasn’t, he was virgin born, then he’d be a son of God. I want them to get out of that one time.<ref>64-0830M - Questions And Answers #3, para. 326-327</ref> | |||
:''Her first son was not the son of Adam. If it was, he had the birthrights. The Bible, in Jude, said that Adam…that, “Enoch was the seventh from Adam.” Is that right? And he starts out, “Adam begot his son, Seth.” What about Cain, which had the birthrights? He wasn’t Adam’s son. Seth, and Seth begot; Jared, and on down to Adam, which down to… “which was the seventh from Adam.” Then if Cain was his son, there is not one place in the Bible, even in Luke when he refers back to it again, he never refers to Cain being the son of Adam. And, if he wasn’t, whose son was he? And if he was the son of Adam, he was his first son, which had all the birthrights. <ref>64-1212 - The Harvest Time, para. 304</ref> | |||
:''Now let's notice whether we're in the last age, or not. Now we find out, if we turn back in Genesis, about the, oh, about the 5th chapter, you can also turn to Luke and find out, that '''Enoch was the seventh from Noah'''. Enoch. | :''Now let's notice whether we're in the last age, or not. Now we find out, if we turn back in Genesis, about the, oh, about the 5th chapter, you can also turn to Luke and find out, that '''Enoch was the seventh from Noah'''. Enoch. | ||
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:''And the seven watches, like the seven watch, of one come. He didn't come the first watch, second, third, fourth, but come in the seventh watch. That was Enoch, the seventh, which was translated. And Noah, being a type of the remnant of Jews, is to be carried over. Now, in the Bible times, talking about the watches. And nights were not divided into hours, in the Bible time.<ref>THE.RAPTURE YUMA.AZ 65-1204</ref> | :''And the seven watches, like the seven watch, of one come. He didn't come the first watch, second, third, fourth, but come in the seventh watch. That was Enoch, the seventh, which was translated. And Noah, being a type of the remnant of Jews, is to be carried over. Now, in the Bible times, talking about the watches. And nights were not divided into hours, in the Bible time.<ref>THE.RAPTURE YUMA.AZ 65-1204</ref> | ||
=Video Transcript= | |||
Message followers place William Branham’s message above the Bible. They do this while at the same time denying that they do. Here Barry Coffey, a message pastor from North Carolina: | |||
:''We don't we don't look at brother Branham's words as the Bible. We don't look at brother Branham as god. That would be blasphemy. That would be anti-Christ for us to do that. | |||
While the Bible is clear that Enoch and Noah never met, William Branham stated on numerous occasions that they did: | |||
:''Just like Noah kept watching Enoch. When Enoch went, Noah said, “Better get close to the ark. The time is at hand.” Noah kept watching Enoch. <ref>63-0320 - The Third Seal, para. 204>/ref> | |||
But this is not biblical. I put this chart together myself based on a simple reading of Genesis chapter 5. We can see Adam’s descendants from Seth down through Adam. Enoch was born 622 years after Adam’s creation and was translated 365 years later. It is obvious to anyone who can read and perform simple addition that Noah was born 69 years AFTER Enoch was translated. Given that Noah was at least 500 years old before he God told him to build the ark, construction did not start until at least 569 years AFTER Enoch was translated. | |||
Even though this is not biblical, here’s Barry Coffey doing exactly what he described as blasphemous: | |||
:''Hey listen... Enoch did it.. Looking up there at the size of that ark. We are witnesses of how big that ark actually was. We've been there, seen it, done that. And and that completed ark was a symbol of pending judgment, right. Enoch knew that. Noah knew that. And here's Noah saying that and here's Enoch observing that. | |||
Chris Maritz from Langley, BC in Canada does exactly the same thing: | |||
:''and I want you to remember that Noah was alive during this time. Can you imagine the conversations that Noah and Enoch would have around a dinner table? There's Noah preaching the gospel. Judgment's coming. Enoch is believing the word because of something that happened in his own life. Amen. As they're mirroring each other. These two eternal seeds of god walking together on the earth, walking with God in fellowship and communion... the rest of the world thinking they're completely crazy. | |||
Message ministers say they are familiar with the questions we have raised and completely discount them. Yet we raised this issue, that Noah and Enoch were alive at the same time, almost 10 years ago. | |||
Personally, I think message ministers have lied. They haven’t even looked at our questions. Rather they have remained ignorant, knowingly rejected scripture and followed William Branham instead. | |||
How can you say that William Branham’s word has a lesser status than the Bible when you can’t disagree with him? When the plain reading of the text of scripture takes a back seat to their prophet’s interpretation? | |||
Either you believe the Bible or you believe William Branham. You can’t believe both. | |||
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