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This has nothing to do with a spirit. This has everything to do with inadequate explanations. | This has nothing to do with a spirit. This has everything to do with inadequate explanations. | ||
::You make statements that are not based on scripture. The Bible is my foundation. That is the foundation of the CHRISTIAN church. The message trashes the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. | |||
: | :''Let me conclude this portion of my response to your episode 3 comments by this; if the message of William Marrion Branham (OUR PROPHET) was just a written message, we could have been confused by your criticisms. However, God in his infinite wisdom made sure that the message of WMB was recorded on tape. Whilst listening to the tape, we are all able to discern the SPIRIT behind what we will be listening to. We are all able to make our individual choices on whether Brother Branham was trying to bring us to himself or to Christ. We are all able to judge whether his gift was fake or real. As for me, every time I listen to them tapes I come up with one conclusion, THE SPIRIT THAT BROTHER BRANHAM OPERATED UNDER WAS THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. Even though I may fail to explain some things BUT the Spirit I discern coming from those tapes is the SPIRIT OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and I can’t deny that. To me the ultimate test of the message is the type of Christianity it has produced in my life. I have lived the highest form of Christianity in my life in THIS MESSAGE. This message has made me a more solid bible believer and has brought me closer to the Lord Jesus Christ – HOW CAN I FIND FAULT WITH IT WHEN THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED IN MY LIFE? | ||
::God did not ask WMB to shoot a brown bear! WMB said THUS SAITH THE LORD that I WILL shoot a brown bear. As soon as he did that, he opened himself up to be judged according to Deut 18:20-22. Based on your explanation of how to apply that passage, it could never be applied because any “prophet” with a failed vision could give the same lame excuse that you provide for WMB… “sorry I messed up.” That excuse is not valid for Deut 18:20-22. | ::God did not ask WMB to shoot a brown bear! WMB said THUS SAITH THE LORD that I WILL shoot a brown bear. As soon as he did that, he opened himself up to be judged according to Deut 18:20-22. Based on your explanation of how to apply that passage, it could never be applied because any “prophet” with a failed vision could give the same lame excuse that you provide for WMB… “sorry I messed up.” That excuse is not valid for Deut 18:20-22. | ||
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::You cannot discern whether his gift was fake or real if you have not talked to the people who were the subject of the gift. Have you read the testimony of Alfred Pohl. Have you read the comments of Walter Hollenweger who was WMB’s interpreter in Europe? He concluded that WMB’s discernment gift appeared amazingly accurate but actual healings were RARE. Of course you won’t believe that because of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance. | ::You cannot discern whether his gift was fake or real if you have not talked to the people who were the subject of the gift. Have you read the testimony of Alfred Pohl. Have you read the comments of Walter Hollenweger who was WMB’s interpreter in Europe? He concluded that WMB’s discernment gift appeared amazingly accurate but actual healings were RARE. Of course you won’t believe that because of confirmation bias and cognitive dissonance. | ||
::WMB operated under a spirit which pointed to WMB and not to Christ. Colossians 2:18-19 applies to WMB: Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow. | ::WMB operated under a spirit which pointed to WMB and not to Christ. Colossians 2:18-19 applies to WMB: ''Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.'' | ||
::Finally, what has been achieved in your life | ::Finally, what has been achieved in your life? If WMB’s message caused it you should be worried. Jesus Christ changed my life. It is him who I serve and none other. '''God will not share his glory with anyone.''' The spirit of God does not come through the tapes, but certainly, the spirit of WMB does. | ||
::I am aware of Muslims who have been delivered from drug abuse and thus give praise to Allah and say what you say – HOW CAN I FIND FAULT WITH IT WHEN THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED IN MY LIFE? | ::I am aware of Muslims who have been delivered from drug abuse and thus give praise to Allah and they say what you say – HOW CAN I FIND FAULT WITH IT WHEN THAT HAS BEEN ACHIEVED IN MY LIFE? But that does not mean I should accept Islam. | ||
::What matters is truth. Truth agrees with the facts because truth is a quality of factual evidence. If you have problems with our evidence, we will be happy to state publicly where our evidence is not factual. But making intellectually dishonest statements that you should ignore the facts is not something that we are prepared to overlook. | ::What matters is truth. Truth agrees with the facts because truth is a quality of factual evidence. If you have problems with our evidence, we will be happy to state publicly where our evidence is not factual. But making intellectually dishonest statements that you should ignore the facts is not something that we are prepared to overlook. | ||