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 The words of Deuteronomy 18:20-22 constantly confronted us:
-:''But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21 And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Dt 18:20–22.</ref>
+:''But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? 22 When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.<ref>The Holy Bible: King James Version, Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version. (Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Dt 18:20–22.</ref>
 So we would ask Bill Ivy the following question - What do we do when we find problems in the message?
+Should we ignore the plain reading of Deuteronomy 18:20-22 if we discover a significant problem?
 '''If Bill Ivy denies there are problems, we would ask him to click on the issues below and respond publicly to the questions we have asked''' (these questions have been on this website for over 7 years without a single message minister contacting us with an answer AND we have stated publicly we would change anything that anyone could prove to be incorrect):
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 These are only a few of the questions that we asked... To see the full list, [[List of Issues with the Message|click here]].
-Will Bill Ivy behave like a Berean and see whether our questions are valid.  They do deserve a response.
+We have tried to behave like the Bereans and we are respectfully requesting that Bill Ivy do the same.  Bro. Bill, if you believe that we are incorrect in our conclusions, please email us and let us know why.  We will promptly change anything on this website that can be proved to be incorrect.
 ==The concept of the "church ages"==