A response to Bill Ivy's Defense of the Message: Difference between revisions

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Sadly, Pastor Ivy does not take the approach given to us in scripture.  This is similar to virtually all message ministers today.  They say that the message can defend itself and then provide no answers to the questions raised by sincere message followers ([[List of Issues with the Message|such as the questions we had when we were in the message]]).
Sadly, Pastor Ivy does not take the approach given to us in scripture.  This is similar to virtually all message ministers today.  They say that the message can defend itself and then provide no answers to the questions raised by sincere message followers ([[List of Issues with the Message|such as the questions we had when we were in the message]]).


Bill Ivy uses Acts 17:11 incorrectly...
Bill Ivy uses Acts 17:11 incorrectly...
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20  But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.  
20  But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.  
21  And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?  
21  And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?  
22  When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.  
22  When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.


==How the message should be defended==
==How the message should be defended==