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Dear Br Sutton you don’t have to tell us why the VOGR has closed up the Nairobi office. We live here and we are quite well acquainted with the sex scandals that have bedevilled your VOGR office here affecting also some countryside libraries. We know them, The conduct is reprehensible, shameful embarrassing and disgusting. It make us Message Believers look much worse than the denominations that we left. It is worse when such acts are associated with Message Ministers accredited by VOGR to man and guide the VOGR products and the numerous libraries in the countryside. Even more embarrassing is the fact that those who engage in such heinous conducts of sexual immorality claim to be Christians and more so to be ministers of Christ. Scripture condemns such conduct in the strongest possible language, | Dear Br Sutton you don’t have to tell us why the VOGR has closed up the Nairobi office. We live here and we are quite well acquainted with the sex scandals that have bedevilled your VOGR office here affecting also some countryside libraries. We know them, The conduct is reprehensible, shameful embarrassing and disgusting. It make us Message Believers look much worse than the denominations that we left. It is worse when such acts are associated with Message Ministers accredited by VOGR to man and guide the VOGR products and the numerous libraries in the countryside. Even more embarrassing is the fact that those who engage in such heinous conducts of sexual immorality claim to be Christians and more so to be ministers of Christ. Scripture condemns such conduct in the strongest possible language, | ||
'''“But Fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness let it not be once mentioned among you as becometh saints, neither filthiness nor foolish talking nor jesting which are not | '''“But Fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness let it not be once mentioned among you as becometh saints, neither filthiness nor foolish talking nor jesting which are not convenient but rather giving of thanks. For this you know no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man who is an idolater has any inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God”''' | ||
convenient but rather giving of thanks. For this you know no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man who is an idolater has any inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ | |||
and of God”''' | |||
However it is important to point out that the VOGR has persistedly followed a policy of discrimination against African brethren who believe and practice polygamy by refusing to | However it is important to point out that the VOGR has persistedly followed a policy of discrimination against African brethren who believe and practice polygamy by refusing to | ||
appoint us as Librarians, subjecting us to humiliation, rejection, insults , derision, and denying us a smooth flow of Branham’s books and tapes. We literary have to grovel and beg to receive even a token of the VOGR services that you offer, all because we dared believe the Prophet’s Revelation of '''MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE (65-0221M)'''. The VOGR holds that African Brothers who believe and practice polygamy are a depraved lot, immoral and are on lower rung of godliness. I myself have been called awful names by fellow Message Believers some which are too awful to be printed here. I cant forget the hurt I felt when the Chairman of the Voice of God Recordings Joseph Branham issued a newsletter some years back and equated polygamy with sodomy. I still smart at the slur because I believe in true holiness and godliness among God’s people and honour the institution of marriage even a polygamous unions. I hope and pray Joseph Branham will find room to repent before the Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Prophet said, | appoint us as Librarians, subjecting us to humiliation, rejection, insults , derision, and denying us a smooth flow of Branham’s books and tapes. We literary have to grovel and beg to receive even a token of the VOGR services that you offer, all because we dared believe the Prophet’s Revelation of '''MARRIAGE AND DIVORCE (65-0221M)'''. The VOGR holds that African Brothers who believe and practice polygamy are a depraved lot, immoral and are on lower rung of godliness. I myself have been called awful names by fellow Message Believers some which are too awful to be printed here. I cant forget the hurt I felt when the Chairman of the Voice of God Recordings Joseph Branham issued a newsletter some years back and equated polygamy with sodomy. I still smart at the slur because I believe in true holiness and godliness among God’s people and honour the institution of marriage even a polygamous unions. I hope and pray Joseph Branham will find room to repent before the Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Prophet said, | ||
'''“I'd rather stand before God with three married women, or five married women standing by my side, than to stand there with one wife, and running with another man's... Yes, sir. | '''“I'd rather stand before God with three married women, or five married women standing by my side, than to stand there with one wife, and running with another man's... Yes, sir. I'd have a better chance before God”. (Abraham restored 61-2-11)''' | ||
I'd have a better chance before God”. (Abraham restored 61-2-11)''' | |||
Dear Br Sutton I don’t know how you intend to sort out this terrible sex scandal that is now associated with the VOGR, but I would suggest that just closing the Office here is not | Dear Br Sutton I don’t know how you intend to sort out this terrible sex scandal that is now associated with the VOGR, but I would suggest that just closing the Office here is not | ||
sufficient. In most international organizations matters of sexual impropriety in workplace are dealt with very severely and I think you should conduct a careful investigation, identify the victims and their families and make restitution. The investigation should not be confined only at the VOGR offices but also be extended at local libraries some of which we hear awful reports of sexual immorality. I understand in the VOGR system each individual library has a direct contract with the VOGR so you also bear direct responsibilty. | sufficient. In most international organizations matters of sexual impropriety in workplace are dealt with very severely and I think you should conduct a careful investigation, identify the victims and their families and make restitution. The investigation should not be confined only at the VOGR offices but also be extended at local libraries some of which we hear awful reports of sexual immorality. I understand in the VOGR system each individual library has a direct contract with the VOGR so you also bear direct responsibilty. | ||
In Africa sex is a taboo not openly discussed and some families may choose to suffer in silence rather than be disgraced by the open exposure of the plight of their children. | In Africa sex is a taboo not openly discussed and some families may choose to suffer in silence rather than be disgraced by the open exposure of the plight of their children. However they should be persuaded to discuss these issues otherwise I shudder to imagine what will happen to the children of those families some years to come? They will hate and despise the Message of our Prophet and anyone associated with it. I think the VOGR should simply own up to it and accept responsibility towards the victims especially where a victim has become a mother (as I hear that there is a child in one case!). It is not fair that you leave the responsibility of the victim and child to the official who committed the act . I think the VOGR should step in to make amends and give financial support to the victim and the child. | ||
However they should be persuaded to discuss these issues otherwise I shudder to imagine what will happen to the children of those families some years to come? They will hate and despise the Message of our Prophet and anyone associated with it. I think the VOGR should simply own up to it and accept responsibility towards the victims especially where a victim has become a mother (as I hear that there is a child in one case!). It is not fair that you leave the responsibility of the victim and child to the official who committed the act . I think the VOGR should step in to make amends and give financial support to the victim and the child. | |||
All said and done I hope your organization has at least learnt that sexual aberrations are not confined to polygamy believers but monogamists too suffer the same weaknesses! | All said and done I hope your organization has at least learnt that sexual aberrations are not confined to polygamy believers but monogamists too suffer the same weaknesses! | ||
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'''“And that's what God told us to do. Not one time was we ever commissioned to discern the-- man's group. But we was constrained and commanded by God to discern the spirit in the man, what he's trying to do, what the spirit in his life is trying to lead him to. And then if we can find out that he's trying to lead the people (not to break them up, but to bring them together) and to bring the church of the living God, not all to one denomination, but to a understanding, a fellowship, a unity of spirit. Then if he is former rain or latter rain, or whatever it is, his spirit and his purpose is right. And the spirit that's in him, no matter what move he belongs to, the Spirit that's in him is trying to point the people to Calvary, away from himself or away from anything else, but his only achievement he has is to point them to Calvary. He doesn't care whether he's even knowed or not. He doesn't care whether even his own movement... which is fine (See?), it's good, if he is a Methodist, or a Presbyterian, or a Roman Catholic, or whatever he wants to be by denomination. (Discernment of spirit) | '''“And that's what God told us to do. Not one time was we ever commissioned to discern the-- man's group. But we was constrained and commanded by God to discern the spirit in the man, what he's trying to do, what the spirit in his life is trying to lead him to. And then if we can find out that he's trying to lead the people (not to break them up, but to bring them together) and to bring the church of the living God, not all to one denomination, but to a understanding, a fellowship, a unity of spirit. Then if he is former rain or latter rain, or whatever it is, his spirit and his purpose is right. And the spirit that's in him, no matter what move he belongs to, the Spirit that's in him is trying to point the people to Calvary, away from himself or away from anything else, but his only achievement he has is to point them to Calvary. He doesn't care whether he's even knowed or not. He doesn't care whether even his own movement... which is fine (See?), it's good, if he is a Methodist, or a Presbyterian, or a Roman Catholic, or whatever he wants to be by denomination. (Discernment of spirit)''' | ||
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Otherwise May God bless you | Otherwise May God bless you | ||