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A response to Pastor Wisper Gwena: Difference between revisions
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:''You said here the only excuse for a “failed” vision is repentance. In my comments on your episode 45 (part 3) below I gave you a scripture on Elijah dying without fulfilling what God told him to do on anointing Jehu. You tried to explain this by saying Elijah was a disobedient prophet as opposed to a false prophet. But follow my arguments in my comments and you will see your explanation does not hold water. You then try and throw a red herring to divert attention to words vision vs still small voice when the point of the argument is God spoke to Elijah directly. PLEASE READ MY COMMENTS ON EPISODE 45 on Elijah dying without fulfilling what God had told him. | :''You said here the only excuse for a “failed” vision is repentance. In my comments on your episode 45 (part 3) below I gave you a scripture on Elijah dying without fulfilling what God told him to do on anointing Jehu. You tried to explain this by saying Elijah was a disobedient prophet as opposed to a false prophet. But follow my arguments in my comments and you will see your explanation does not hold water. You then try and throw a red herring to divert attention to words vision vs still small voice when the point of the argument is God spoke to Elijah directly. PLEASE READ MY COMMENTS ON EPISODE 45 on Elijah dying without fulfilling what God had told him. | ||
::I am surprised that you are unable to see the difference between WMB saying "Thus Saith The Lord" I WILL KILL A BROWN BEAR and Elijah saying that God told him to do something and he didn't do it. The difference is simple but if you can't see it, I am not surprised because THAT IS WHAT cognitive dissonance does to a person. They must accept the position that justifies their beliefs and are unable to see even simple contradictions. | |||
Coming to cognitive dissonance, this is a well known psychology theory. This theory is not about message believers trying to defend the Prophet as you almost try and make it sound. The theory suggests that people have an inner drive to hold their beliefs (cognitions) and attitudes in harmony and avoid disharmony (dissonance). This belief spoken of here is ANY belief NOT just a message belief as you try and potray. You people now hold a firm cognition (belief) that Bro Branham was a false prophet. This belief is so deep entrenched in you that you think anyone that does not see what you see is deluded. You fight for your belief so much until you have dedicated websites, podcasts, hours and hours of time to try and defend your belief and spread your beliefs. Anyone that comes against your beliefs you accuse them of cognitive dissonance YET YOU DON'T REALISE THAT YOU YOURSELVES ARE IN COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. You say where are we in dissonance, deep within you there are somethings that you know that these were supernatural in the life of Bro Branham. Your website Rod carries the testimony of Charlie Mitchel who Bro Branham discerned accurately in the sermon This Day This Scripture Is Fulfilled. No prayer cards had been given in that service so Bro Branham could not have been reading prayer cards as some may be deluded to want to say. People went to ask Charlie if they had a previous encounter with Bro Branham and he confirmed there was none. People then asked him what he had done to be called out in discernment and he said in his own words “I just gave up this whole world and take Jesus”. His lung cancer was instantly healed and he went to 2 separate specialist who confirmed he no longer had cancer. THIS TESTIMONY IS ON YOUR OWN WEBSITE ROD. So you know there was a supernatural that was undeniable in the life of WMB. This knowledge is there at the back of your soul but because you now hold a firm belief that Bro Branham was false, you now go into cognitive dissonance. The result is you dedicate a life to try and disprove God's Prophet. Those are the TYPICAL SIGNS OF COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. | :''Coming to cognitive dissonance, this is a well known psychology theory. This theory is not about message believers trying to defend the Prophet as you almost try and make it sound. The theory suggests that people have an inner drive to hold their beliefs (cognitions) and attitudes in harmony and avoid disharmony (dissonance). This belief spoken of here is ANY belief NOT just a message belief as you try and potray. You people now hold a firm cognition (belief) that Bro Branham was a false prophet. This belief is so deep entrenched in you that you think anyone that does not see what you see is deluded. You fight for your belief so much until you have dedicated websites, podcasts, hours and hours of time to try and defend your belief and spread your beliefs. Anyone that comes against your beliefs you accuse them of cognitive dissonance YET YOU DON'T REALISE THAT YOU YOURSELVES ARE IN COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. You say where are we in dissonance, deep within you there are somethings that you know that these were supernatural in the life of Bro Branham. Your website Rod carries the testimony of Charlie Mitchel who Bro Branham discerned accurately in the sermon This Day This Scripture Is Fulfilled. No prayer cards had been given in that service so Bro Branham could not have been reading prayer cards as some may be deluded to want to say. People went to ask Charlie if they had a previous encounter with Bro Branham and he confirmed there was none. People then asked him what he had done to be called out in discernment and he said in his own words “I just gave up this whole world and take Jesus”. His lung cancer was instantly healed and he went to 2 separate specialist who confirmed he no longer had cancer. THIS TESTIMONY IS ON YOUR OWN WEBSITE ROD. So you know there was a supernatural that was undeniable in the life of WMB. This knowledge is there at the back of your soul but because you now hold a firm belief that Bro Branham was false, you now go into cognitive dissonance. The result is you dedicate a life to try and disprove God's Prophet. Those are the TYPICAL SIGNS OF COGNITIVE DISSONANCE. | ||
::The title of Dr. Festinger's book is "WHEN RPOPHECY FAILS" which describes EXACTLY what has happened to you. One of the things required for more fervent belief to occur is this "undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur." That is what our evidence with respect to the failed visions are - disconfirmatory evidence. | ::The title of Dr. Festinger's book is "WHEN RPOPHECY FAILS" which describes EXACTLY what has happened to you. One of the things required for more fervent belief to occur is this "undeniable disconfirmatory evidence must occur." That is what our evidence with respect to the failed visions are - disconfirmatory evidence. | ||
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:''Let me drop this here – Charlie Mitchel said he gave up the whole world and TOOK JESUS. When he took Jesus, Bro Branham was directed to him in discernment and his cancer disappeared. Charlie TOOK JESUS and that Jesus responded through a prophet whom you now want to call FALSE – Please let's be honest in heart !!! If there are things we don't understand let us just say there are things we don't understand and wait for God to clear them for us. | :''Let me drop this here – Charlie Mitchel said he gave up the whole world and TOOK JESUS. When he took Jesus, Bro Branham was directed to him in discernment and his cancer disappeared. Charlie TOOK JESUS and that Jesus responded through a prophet whom you now want to call FALSE – Please let's be honest in heart !!! If there are things we don't understand let us just say there are things we don't understand and wait for God to clear them for us. | ||
:If someone was healed by Jesus Christ, that is wonderful. But that requires me to glorify God and not WMB. A gift of healing is not the sign of a prophet. You are simply grasping for straws. | ::If someone was healed by Jesus Christ, that is wonderful. But that requires me to glorify God and not WMB. A gift of healing is not the sign of a prophet. You are simply grasping for straws. | ||
:''I REST MY CASE | :''I REST MY CASE | ||