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 If this was a prophecy, it appears to be the one of the very few that were actually recorded on tape prior to its fulfillment.
-But did he really have a vision telling him that Joseph would be born?
+=Was it really a prophecy?=
+Did William Branham really have a vision before the fact telling him that he would have a son named Joseph?
 The only place that this "prophecy" is recorded in advance of Joseph's birth is on May 6, 1951 when William Branham stated:
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 :''My Joseph was right with me when--and I didn't know it.
-Is this a clear prophecy?  Or is it simply a man asking God for something?  Certainly if Joseph had never been born, we could not have pointed back as with the [[The Brown Bear Vision|vision of the Brown Bear]] or [[The Vision of the Meetings in South Africa|the vision of the meetings in South Africa]] and state that the vision was not fulfilled.  William Branham does not mention a vision at this time.  It is only mentioned after the fact.
+Is this a clear prophecy?  '''Or is it simply a man asking God for something?'''  Certainly if Joseph had never been born, we could not have pointed back at this event, as we can with the [[The Brown Bear Vision|vision of the Brown Bear]] or [[The Vision of the Meetings in South Africa|the vision of the meetings in South Africa]] and state that the vision was not fulfilled.  William Branham does not mention a vision at this time.  It is '''only mentioned after the fact'''.
+==Vision only mentioned after the fact==
-Another issue is that, if you read the quotes below, William Branham did not indicate that he had seen a vision.  Then later, after Joseph is born, he states that he had a vision showing his son's birth.  Then he subsequently states it wasn't a vision but was just something he felt was coming from the Lord.  He then later clearly states that he did have a clear vision that he would have a son that he was to name Joseph?  Is that a clear prophecy?
+Another issue is that, if you read the quotes below, William Branham never indicated in advance of the birth that he had seen a vision.  Then later, after Joseph is born, he states that he had a vision showing his son's birth.  Then he subsequently states it wasn't a vision but was just something he felt was coming from the Lord.  He then later states that he did have a clear vision that he would have a son and that he was to name him Joseph.  Is that a clear prophecy?
 Based on this, the birth of Joseph Branham cannot be considered to have been a clear prophecy given publicly before the fact that was later clearly fulfilled.
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 :''Immediately, after that, about a month or so, I knew my wife was to be mother. I looked forward for the coming of a little boy: Joseph. And when he was born, or to be born, I said, here at the tabernacle...You all sent so many nice presents and things which will always be remembered in our hearts. And I'm sure the heavenly Father has a record of everything up there. And I pray that He'll bless you.
-:''And I wanted to go home to go to meet the child, to see what would happen. I wanted him to take my place. I wanted someone to take my place, that I would know that the mantle would be on my children, if it could. And it's always been a little place out there, if I could just press over... I see things in part, but I... It just seems like I'm just living a little tributary to a great lake just beyond. And I always thought if I could just get past that one place, oh, my... And maybe I... My background's being so sinful, as I explained, that my people were all sinners before me, and I was raised in a sinful home. And then, trying to keep myself from sin at that time, as much as I knew how, I thought maybe God would let my children come into the blessing, the full blessing. :''And maybe my little boy would fully be a prophet sent from God; I pray to that.
+:''And I wanted to go home to go to meet the child, to see what would happen. I wanted him to take my place. I wanted someone to take my place, that I would know that the mantle would be on my children, if it could. And it's always been a little place out there, if I could just press over... I see things in part, but I... It just seems like I'm just living a little tributary to a great lake just beyond. And I always thought if I could just get past that one place, oh, my... And maybe I... My background's being so sinful, as I explained, that my people were all sinners before me, and I was raised in a sinful home. And then, trying to keep myself from sin at that time, as much as I knew how, I thought maybe God would let my children come into the blessing, the full blessing.
+:''And maybe my little boy would fully be a prophet sent from God; I pray to that.
 :''When I went to meet the little baby, as a nurse from Mayo's had been healed of a cancer a few years ago, given up to die, she was our nurse. When the--the baby was brought and--or come to meet it, instead of the Spirit falling to the baby, it fell back this a way again. And I--I believe it's just ahead of me. I-- what I've ask for is, I believe that God has it just ahead. I believe I'll live to see it. And that's what I pray for.