Vaylism

Lee Vayle taught a number of controversial doctrines including the Parousia doctrine, the denial of the deity of Jesus Christ and espousing Adoptionism (also referred to as Dynamic Monarchianism).

Did Lee Vayle have a Ph.D?

One of our colleagues wrote to Lee Vayle a number of years ago, and got this reply from his assistant:

Brother Vayle only attended post high school for about 6 weeks at the age of 18 years old. He attended a Baptist Bible college and proceeded to get kicked out for teaching the young men to speak in tongues. He received his doctor tag from Brother Branham who said Br. Vayle was an profound teacher and began introducing him as Doctor Lee Vayle. Who better to give him the title of Doctor, than the prophet of our day?"

Lee Vayle's doctrines

Lee Vayle became widely known in message circles for preaching heretical doctrines and destroying what little unity there was in the message by creating a special group within the message (who already thought that they were a special group).

Denial of the Deity of Christ

...the church has made the great mistake in making Jesus equal to God — which he is in a certain way — but he’s not God. He’s not Deity. I’m sorry, but he’s not, because God is not in him. No way. What God was in him is not Deity, same as what God is in you is not Deity, concerning Deity Himself, which is Sovereign God and Creator and Maintainer.

Now with the subject of sovereignty, what I wanted to do was to bring to you the understanding that Jesus is not Deity. When Bro. Branham said, “He’s God, but he’s not God,” in our minds we placed that with the incarnation, and that is true. But, when you realize that in the incarnation, which is to come, when that Spirit that’s in our midst, and that’s the Spirit of God, He will become incarnate to us again.

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We’re going to talk about, as I said, in the fact of sovereignty, Jesus cannot be Deity. Now Jesus can’t be Deity when we consider true Deity.

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Jesus definitely is not God. He is the Son of God. And his form, as I’ve mentioned already, Bro. Branham said, “The only difference between God and His Son is that sons have beginnings.”

What do you mean, “sons have beginnings?” Well, sons are procreated. The thought of having a son does not give anybody the ability to create one. The substance must be there in order to be passed on to that person, to bring that person in the likeness of the progenitor.

So, Jesus was the Son of God, which he was. That life had to be already there, and that life simply had to be passed on in a mold, and that mold would have to be what was ever within the intrinsicality and essentiality of Almighty God. That’s why Jesus was the image of God. And that’s why, when God said, “Let us make man in our image,” it was made in the image of Jesus, and it came out a man. That’s why Bro. Branham said, “God was the first man; Jesus, the second; and Adam, the third,” because God comes in threes. What for? Not as persons: one, two, three gods, but in God doing what He did to bring forth Himself through children. As it is said by people, “Men and women achieve a certain immortality by having children.” But, if the line suddenly dies, the immortality is gone.

So, Jesus can’t be Deity, when we consider true Deity. He is the Son of Deity, Son of God, and since elevated by God, he is worthy of worship, but not as God is worshipped. He can’t be. It is wise to regard Jesus, Son of God, in the light of Hebrews, as written by Paul, and glorifying God for His wisdom and power, for so setting us all in divine order.

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And, how was he equal with God? Because he was the First-begotten Son of God. So therefore, positively, he was equal in the inheritance, because it split the kingdom right down the middle. But God didn’t split Himself down the middle. God didn’t split His sovereignty down the middle. He had an equality, the same as Bro. Branham says, “Satan was one time equal with God and led in the worship.”

Was he equal with God as per Godhead? Oh, don’t be ridiculous. Was he equal, then, in the majesty and the glory and the power? Don’t be ridiculous. He had to be a controller of some description, as the great CEOs are of all the money you’ve got invested in stock, and they act as though it were their own, with their golden parachutes, and their divvying up, and their perks, and God knows what.

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Now again, in Jn 14:6 - I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (So, he’s not the Father, and he’s not God. “There’s one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus.” [1 Tim 2:5])

And It places it right there that Jesus is not God. See? I’ll tell you: I believe calling Jesus ‘Deity’, which we’ve had people here do that, is an entire misunderstanding or no understanding of Seed: that God is the Father, the Progenitor, the Author, the All in all of a race of His Own children, genetically, legitimately, spiritually, physically, every single way. God is not our Creator; He is our Father; He is our Source; He is our Progenitor. Call it what you want. Out of the Great Fountain, God, came every one of His sons, and nothing else came from that Lifeline, because the Bible says, “In him was life.”

General vulgarity

Lee Vayle was often quite vulgar in his sermons and preached some very strange things, including that it would be better for a woman to be raped than seduced:

Let me tell you something: a woman seduced or raped has been taken regardless of how it was done. And I would sooner know that a woman was raped than seduced, because it shows she didn't put her mind to it. She was forced to it. Yes, let's get that flat, you women sitting here, and young people... And men had better rape than seduce, also. Yeah...

People come from around the world. They come over here, and they say, "Vayle's got the worst spirit in the world. Terry Sproule's got the worst spirit in the world. Roger Smith's got the worst spirit in the world. Mike Hunt's got the worst spirit." Why? Because our foreheads are strong. We've not got whore foreheads. Whore foreheads; they can have their whore foreheads. I've got as strong a forehead as the whore any day of the week. Yes, sir. The same ones like the whore, they partake of their miserable, rotten intercourse. And It says, "She commits her intercourse; she charges money for it."

"Join our church. Give so much. We'll pray... We'll pray and get you out of purgatory."

All that kind of hogwash and nonsense. And that whore's forehead: you can't stop her from her adulteries, because it's a real easy, nice life, and she likes it. She's in a business. She's in a racket. A whore's forehead. And when she goes through the act, it's no more than eating a piece of bread and wiping her mouth.

There's your rotten prostitutes of Rome and protestantism. I'm going to tell you what: It said, "Your forehead is going to be strong against their foreheads."

And these guys say, "Oh, no, no, no. You mustn't be that way when they lie about you, and they seduce the Word..." everything else. You're supposed to stand back and say, "Pretty Jesus. Nice Jesus. I'm a nice fellow."

Bro. Branham categorically said that those who leave the Word: "We don't fellowship with them." Get away. They talk about oneness with God. How do you get one with God, until first you're one with the Word?

"Oh," they say, "I don't believe that."

Then you don't believe Logos. Whore's forehead. Jesus set His face like a flint! How did William Branham feel, knowing he's going down that road that day to be killed in that wreck? You say, "It tore his guts up." You bet it tore his guts up.

"Oh, but Jesus didn't have any guts."

Didn't he? "Let this cup pass, but nevertheless let it be Thy will." And he sweat, as it were, drops of blood. He didn't have any whore's forehead. Why didn't he say, "Oh, great Caiaphas, I'll acquiesce. I'll accede the Word!"?

"Oh, as long as we get together, it's all fine."

"O generation of vipers!" said John, "who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?"

Christ came on with the same story. Let them know they circumnavigated the whole globe with their dirty, rotten, filthy lies and tricks to make them more two-fold child of hell than themselves. Let me tell you: this age goes down with a seven-more-fold child of hell than the first age, because the cup of iniquity is full, you see. I'm not mad. I'm just telling you. I'm no judgment teacher. I'm just preaching the Word of God. You do what you want with it.

Followed William Branham's racist teachings

William Branham preached that biracial marriages were wrong even though there is no Biblical support for it:

Let's see. That's the start of it. Deuteronomy 23:2-I won't get anywhere except on this tonight. We'll go over It tomorrow. By the grace of God, we'll go right to the "Identification," because we're already well into my notes, in order, whatever they are. I've got Bro. Branham's notes in order. All right. Deuteronomy 23:2:

(2) A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.

Now, of course, we understand illegitimacy in a different way than this here. This is where an Israelite marries a foreign woman, or visa versa-I suppose you could put it that way, too. But illegitimacy is illegitimacy. Anything out of wedlock is not truly illegitimate, (It's only when those couples…) because the woman could be a young virgin, seduced by a married man. The child, then, would not be a bastard child. It would not be truly illegitimate. We have Scripture and things for that. But these are things that Bro. Branham taught, so I know of wherein I speak; and I found the very quote on what Bro. Branham was saying.

Now, what I want you to notice here, for the tenth generation… It takes ten generations to clear it. Now Bro. Branham brought that out. Now, let's just stop a minute. What if I married a black man to a white woman or visa versa, or a Chinese to an Indian, or visa versa, or a Japanese to somebody else of another race and color-talking about the black and white. Let us say that this black man marries a white woman. The child born, (Let us say is a girl.) is called a 'mulatto', because she's one half.

Now she's a pretty girl and very desirable, so she marries a white man and they have a child-beautiful little girl, with beautiful color, and she is called a 'quadroon'. She's one quarter.

Now she has a daughter, even more beautiful still, and beautiful coloring, and she marries a white man. Now they have an octoroon. That's one eighth.

Now this has a daughter also, and she marries a white man. The child is white. Reverse it and it's black.

Now that's your first generation mulatto, the second one is quadroon, the third one is an octoroon, and the last one bows out. That's not many generations.

Then, why would God… And mixed marriages are wrong according to Bro. Branham. And we believe that, because God set the boundaries and all. And what mixed the races but pure lust and what have you. demands ten generations. Here you've got four. So, when you're looking at this, you can't say, "Well, I'll tell you what: we shouldn't have a color mixture."

But, after the fifth generation, it's all blotted out. It's gone. God says that's all for this. So now, where does your fornication take you, if a mixed marriage, which is legal…? And they are legal, according to the law of the land. There is nobody who fusses about them; just leave them the way they are. Whatever they do is their business.

Paul was not a Christian?

While his followers state that Lee Vayle was stating that Paul's teachings were lost in the first century, it certainly appears that he is stating that Paul was not a Christian. Even if that is what he meant, the statement that Paul's teachings were lost make no sense since we have his teachings clearly outlined in his epistles. But when you don't agree with Paul, it's easy to say that his teachings were lost as a way to ignore what scripture (and Paul in his epistles) clearly states.

"Now Bro. Vayle you can't tell a book by its cover." I got news for you; you can if the prophet said so! That's 'THUS SAITH THE LORD'! Not some jackass idiot philosopher that pawns himself as an erudite educationist, thereby thinks he's spiritual... spiritual my foot.

Bro. Branham distinctly said, "Sometimes Jesus was talking, and sometimes the Father was talking in him!" Huh? Huh? Huh? They're like a stupid seal trying to get the smell of fish and get someone to hand them a fish. What is the greatest revelation under the Seventh Seal? It sounds pretty pitiful doesn't it? Huh? It sounds pretty sick. Surely there should be something greater than that. But there isn't. He said, ‘We are not Trinitarian, we are not Oneness, neither do we believe in two gods.’”

I know a lot of people claim it, and they haven't got it, because they just don't have it, Lord. They don't have You, they don't have the end time revelation. They talk about Paul and they don't have him. Paul was lost in the first century; they don't even believe it. Another gospel, another Jesus, another spirit, they don't believe it. They can't. They simply believe that they're fine. But Lord we know it isn't true; eight people made the ark.”

Current status of Vaylism

Some churches that initially started off as followers of Lee Vayle have gone off on a separate tangent, such as the followers of Terry Sproule in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.