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	:'''''"We don't have to understand it, that’s where faith comes in.”		:'''''"We don't have to understand it, that’s where faith comes in.”

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	=What William Branham taught=		=What William Branham taught=

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	:''Notice, we cannot, we must not, listen to any other man’s word. We don’t care how smart, how educated. '''The Bible, in Proverbs, says, “We must cast down reasonings.”''' See? Now, here in this second realm… First realm is your senses of see, taste, feel, smell, and hear. That’s in your outer body. On the inner body, which is the spirit, is reasonings and thought, and so forth. We must cast all that down. '''Can’t reason''', say, “Now wait, if God is a good God…” And we’re told so much today that He is. “If He is a good God, then if I be sincere, though I can’t see that in that Bible being right, though I be sincere, I’ll be saved.” You’ll be lost. <ref>William Branham, 65-0822M - Christ Is Revealed In His Own Word, para. 130</ref>		:''Notice, we cannot, we must not, listen to any other man’s word. We don’t care how smart, how educated. '''The Bible, in Proverbs, says, “We must cast down reasonings.”''' See? Now, here in this second realm… First realm is your senses of see, taste, feel, smell, and hear. That’s in your outer body. On the inner body, which is the spirit, is reasonings and thought, and so forth. We must cast all that down. '''Can’t reason''', say, “Now wait, if God is a good God…” And we’re told so much today that He is. “If He is a good God, then if I be sincere, though I can’t see that in that Bible being right, though I be sincere, I’ll be saved.” You’ll be lost. <ref>William Branham, 65-0822M - Christ Is Revealed In His Own Word, para. 130</ref>

	~~But~~ William Branham appears to be misquoting the 1890 Darby translation (although William Branham never mentions Darby... ever) of 2 Corinthians 10:4-5 which states:		William Branham appears to be misquoting the 1890 Darby translation (although William Branham never mentions Darby... ever) of 2 Corinthians 10:4-5 (and not Proverbs) which states:

	:''For the arms of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful according to God to the overthrow of strongholds; '''overthrowing reasonings''' and every high thing that lifts itself up against the knowledge of God, and leading captive every thought into the obedience of the Christ...<ref>John Nelson Darby, The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages (Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, 1996), 2 Co 10:4–5.</ref>		:''For the arms of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful according to God to the overthrow of strongholds; '''overthrowing reasonings''' and every high thing that lifts itself up against the knowledge of God, and leading captive every thought into the obedience of the Christ...<ref>John Nelson Darby, The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages (Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, 1996), 2 Co 10:4–5.</ref>

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	William Branham stated:		William Branham stated:

	:''~~But~~ we ~~got to~~ cast down ~~reasons, till it~~'~~s contrary--if it~~'~~s contrary~~ to God~~'s Word~~.<ref>~~THE~~.~~INTER.VEIL_ STURGIS.MI SATURDAY_ 56-0121~~</ref>		:''So don’t try to use your own intellectuals, use your heart. Now remember, '''you don’t never try to reason; we cast down reasoning.''' In the garden of Eden, the devil took a man’s head to work through; God took a man’s heart. And the man’s always working to what he can see, and faith makes him believe things he cannot see. But he believes it because God said so. That settles it. That’s just the—the story of faith.<ref>William Branham, 59-0423 - Abraham's Seed, para. 29</ref>

	But William Branham appears to be misquoting the 1890 Darby translation of 2 Corinthians 10:4-5 which states:		:''Notice, we cannot, we must not, listen to any other man’s word. We don’t care how smart, how educated. '''The Bible, in Proverbs, says, “We must cast down reasonings.”''' See? Now, here in this second realm… First realm is your senses of see, taste, feel, smell, and hear. That’s in your outer body. On the inner body, which is the spirit, is reasonings and thought, and so forth. We must cast all that down. '''Can’t reason''', say, “Now wait, if God is a good God…” And we’re told so much today that He is. “If He is a good God, then if I be sincere, though I can’t see that in that Bible being right, though I be sincere, I’ll be saved.” You’ll be lost. <ref>William Branham, 65-0822M - Christ Is Revealed In His Own Word, para. 130</ref>

			But William Branham appears to be misquoting the 1890 Darby translation (although William Branham never mentions Darby... ever) of 2 Corinthians 10:4-5 which states:

	:''For the arms of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful according to God to the overthrow of strongholds; '''overthrowing reasonings''' and every high thing that lifts itself up against the knowledge of God, and leading captive every thought into the obedience of the Christ...<ref>John Nelson Darby, The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages (Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, 1996), 2 Co 10:4–5.</ref>		:''For the arms of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful according to God to the overthrow of strongholds; '''overthrowing reasonings''' and every high thing that lifts itself up against the knowledge of God, and leading captive every thought into the obedience of the Christ...<ref>John Nelson Darby, The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages (Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, 1996), 2 Co 10:4–5.</ref>
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	William Branham said:		William Branham said:

	:''That's how you know God is by faith, NOT BY REASON. Your reason power within yourself, but faith comes from God. Faith is something that's born in you, something that God gives you. "And it's the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not ~~REASONED~~." Hallelujah.<ref>54-1024 THE.UNPARDONABLE.SIN_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN</ref>		:''That's how you know God is by faith, NOT BY REASON. Your reason power within yourself, but faith comes from God. Faith is something that's born in you, something that God gives you. "And it's the substance of things hoped for, and '''the evidence of things not REASONE'''D." Hallelujah.<ref>54-1024 THE.UNPARDONABLE.SIN_ JEFFERSONVILLE.IN</ref>

	William Branham changes scripture (again) to suit his anti-intellectual bias.		William Branham changes scripture (again) to suit his anti-intellectual bias.

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	:''But we got to cast down reasons, till it's contrary--if it's contrary to God's Word.<ref>THE.INTER.VEIL_ STURGIS.MI SATURDAY_ 56-0121</ref>		:''But we got to cast down reasons, till it's contrary--if it's contrary to God's Word.<ref>THE.INTER.VEIL_ STURGIS.MI SATURDAY_ 56-0121</ref>

	But William Branham is misquoting the ~~scripture which states in~~ 2 ~~Cor~~ 10:5:		But William Branham appears to be misquoting the 1890 Darby translation of 2 Corinthians 10:4-5 which states:

	:''~~Casting down imaginations~~, and every high thing that ~~exalteth~~ itself against the knowledge of God, and ~~bringing into captivity~~ every thought to the obedience of Christ...<ref>2 ~~Cor~~ 10:~~5, KJV~~</ref>		:''For the arms of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful according to God to the overthrow of strongholds; '''overthrowing reasonings''' and every high thing that lifts itself up against the knowledge of God, and leading captive every thought into the obedience of the Christ...<ref>John Nelson Darby, The Holy Scriptures: A New Translation from the Original Languages (Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, 1996), 2 Co 10:4–5.</ref>

	To get a clearer picture of what this means, we can look at a couple of other translations of this passage:		To get a clearer picture of what this means, we can look at a couple of other translations of this passage:
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	:''We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ...<ref>2 Cor 10:5, ESV</ref>		:''We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ...<ref>2 Cor 10:5, ESV</ref>

	:''We demolish arguments 5 and every high-minded thing that is raised up against the knowledge of God, taking every thought captive to obey Christ.<ref>2 Cor 10:5, Holman Christian Standard Bible</ref>		:''We demolish arguments and every high-minded thing that is raised up against the knowledge of God, taking every thought captive to obey Christ.<ref>2 Cor 10:5, Holman Christian Standard Bible</ref>

	How do you destroy or demolish arguments? With better arguments and reasoning... that's exactly what Paul did with the Jews in the synagogues that he visited.		How do you destroy or demolish arguments? With better arguments and reasoning... that's exactly what Paul did with the Jews in the synagogues that he visited.
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	==William Branham and reasoning==		==William Branham and reasoning==

	Paul reasoned ~~with~~ in the synagogues and persuaded men to be Christians. What did William Branham think of this?		Paul reasoned in the synagogues and persuaded men to be Christians. What did William Branham think of this?

	William Branham was opposed to reasoning:		William Branham was opposed to reasoning:

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	=Adding to the Bible?=		=Adding to the Bible?=
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	~~''That's~~ the ~~reason you can't rise up in faith, because you got intellectuals there. Your intellectual part says, "Well, this, or that." It's~~ a ~~reasoning~~. We ~~want~~ to ~~cast down reasonings,~~ the ~~Bible tells us.<ref>56-0121, The Inter-Veil</ref>~~		William Branham misquoted the Bible and then built a doctrine around his addition to the Bible. We challenge anyone in the message to find the following passage referenced by William Branham:

			:''That's the reason you can't rise up in faith, because you got intellectuals there. Your intellectual part says, "Well, this, or that." It's a reasoning. '''We want to cast down reasonings, the Bible tells us.'''<ref>56-0121, The Inter-Veil</ref>

	''But now, as long as you dwell in that mental reasonings, you'll never be no different. Now, the Bible said we've got to cast down reasoning.<ref>56-0128, Inspiration</ref>		:''But now, as long as you dwell in that mental reasonings, you'll never be no different. Now, '''the Bible said we've got to cast down reasoning'''.<ref>56-0128, Inspiration</ref>

			:'''''The Bible said, "We cast down reasons.'''"<ref>62-1014M, The Stature Of A Perfect Man</ref>

	''~~The Bible said, "We cast down reasons."<ref>62-1014M, The Stature Of A Perfect Man</ref>~~		:'''''The Bible, in Proverbs, says, "We must cast down reasonings.'''<ref>65-0822M, Christ Is Revealed In His Own Word</ref>


	''The Bible, in Proverbs, says, "We must cast down reasonings.<ref>65-0822M, Christ Is Revealed In His Own Word</ref>

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	''But now, as long as you dwell in that mental reasonings, you'll never be no different. 25 Now, the Bible said we've got to cast down reasoning.<ref>56-0128, Inspiration</ref>		''But now, as long as you dwell in that mental reasonings, you'll never be no different. Now, the Bible said we've got to cast down reasoning.<ref>56-0128, Inspiration</ref>

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	Over and over again the Old Testament saints, when questioning God’s goodness, provision or protection, were encouraged by a leader or prophet to '''remember what God did for them''' in Egypt. God’s rescue efforts in Egypt were provided as a '''piece of evidence''', demonstrating that He was capable of rescuing His children again. God has given us visible assurance that he exists, and the writer of Hebrews is simply asking us to trust this assurance when God and his mercies seem like they are “things not seen”. Even the writer of Hebrews understood the conviction and assurance that resulted from evidence: the evidence of God’s Old Testament activities and the evidence of Jesus’ New Testament miracles.<ref>http://coldcasechristianity.com/2012/doesnt-the-bible-say-true-faith-is-blind/ Doesn’t the Bible Say True Faith is Blind?</ref>		Over and over again the Old Testament saints, when questioning God’s goodness, provision or protection, were encouraged by a leader or prophet to '''remember what God did for them''' in Egypt. God’s rescue efforts in Egypt were provided as a '''piece of evidence''', demonstrating that He was capable of rescuing His children again. God has given us visible assurance that he exists, and the writer of Hebrews is simply asking us to trust this assurance when God and his mercies seem like they are “things not seen”. Even the writer of Hebrews understood the conviction and assurance that resulted from evidence: the evidence of God’s Old Testament activities and the evidence of Jesus’ New Testament miracles.<ref>http://coldcasechristianity.com/2012/doesnt-the-bible-say-true-faith-is-blind/ Doesn’t the Bible Say True Faith is Blind?</ref>

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			''That's the reason you can't rise up in faith, because you got intellectuals there. Your intellectual part says, "Well, this, or that." It's a reasoning. We want to cast down reasonings, the Bible tells us.<ref>56-0121, The Inter-Veil</ref>


			''But now, as long as you dwell in that mental reasonings, you'll never be no different. 25 Now, the Bible said we've got to cast down reasoning.<ref>56-0128, Inspiration</ref>


			''The Bible said, "We cast down reasons."<ref>62-1014M, The Stature Of A Perfect Man</ref>


			''The Bible, in Proverbs, says, "We must cast down reasonings.<ref>65-0822M, Christ Is Revealed In His Own Word</ref>

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	Over and over again the Old Testament saints, when questioning God’s goodness, provision or protection, were encouraged by a leader or prophet to '''remember what God did for them''' in Egypt. God’s rescue efforts in Egypt were provided as a '''piece of evidence''', demonstrating that He was capable of rescuing His children again. God has given us visible assurance that he exists, and the writer of Hebrews is simply asking us to trust this assurance when God and his mercies seem like they are “things not seen”. Even the writer of Hebrews understood the conviction and assurance that resulted from evidence: the evidence of God’s Old Testament activities and the evidence of Jesus’ New Testament miracles.<ref>http://coldcasechristianity.com/2012/doesnt-the-bible-say-true-faith-is-blind/ Doesn’t the Bible Say True Faith is Blind?</ref>		Over and over again the Old Testament saints, when questioning God’s goodness, provision or protection, were encouraged by a leader or prophet to '''remember what God did for them''' in Egypt. God’s rescue efforts in Egypt were provided as a '''piece of evidence''', demonstrating that He was capable of rescuing His children again. God has given us visible assurance that he exists, and the writer of Hebrews is simply asking us to trust this assurance when God and his mercies seem like they are “things not seen”. Even the writer of Hebrews understood the conviction and assurance that resulted from evidence: the evidence of God’s Old Testament activities and the evidence of Jesus’ New Testament miracles.<ref>http://coldcasechristianity.com/2012/doesnt-the-bible-say-true-faith-is-blind/ Doesn’t the Bible Say True Faith is Blind?</ref>

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	:'''''"We don't have to understand it, that’s where faith comes in.”		:'''''"We don't have to understand it, that’s where faith comes in.”

			<mediaplayer width='700' height='475'>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJoOhbf3_Ts</mediaplayer>

	=The Bible requires us to think=		=The Bible requires us to think=