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Mark Twain once said, '''"If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything."'''
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The Bible plainly tells us in Titus and 1 Timothy what is expected of Christian leaders:
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:''An elder must be blameless...<ref>Titus 1:6 (NET)</ref>
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:''For the overseer must be blameless as one entrusted with God’s work...<ref>Titus 1:7 (NET)</ref>
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:''The overseer then must be above reproach...<ref>1 Timothy 3:2 (NET)</ref>
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:''And these also must be tested first and then let them serve as deacons if they are found blameless.<ref>1 Timothy 3:10 (NET)</ref>
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William Branham portrayed himself as a simple, honest, uneducated man who was sent from God as a prophet to fore-run the second coming of Christ.  But an important question is whether he was truthful over the pulpit.  Each of the questions below examines and important issue regarding his credibility.  If you click on the individual items below, they will take you to a detailed explanation of each issue.  Examine the evidence for yourself and determine whether William Branham was truthful:
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#[[William Branham and Billy Graham|Did William Branham lie about his prophecy regarding Billy Graham?]]
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#[[1933 Ohio River Experience|Did anyone hear the voice on the Ohio River in 1933?]]
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#[[The Cloud|Why did William Branham say that he was under the cloud when they took its picture, when he clearly wasn't?]]
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#Did William Branham travel [[William_Branham's Travels#Around the world seven times?|around the world seven times?]]
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#[[Bible saved from the flood|Was William Branham's Bible saved miraculously in the 1937 flood?]]
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#[[The Man from Windsor|Why did the story of the man from Windsor change so drastically over time?]]
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#[[Plagiarism|Why did William Branham say that he received his revelations from God when he took many of his doctrines from other men?]]
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#Why did William Branham change the story of [[Congressman Upshaw]]'s healing?
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#[[Roy Davis|When did William Branham embrace Pentecostalism?]]
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#Was [[Donny Morton]] really healed?
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#[[William Branham speaks in tongues|Did William Branham speak in an unknown tongue that a Finnish woman understood?]]
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#[[Was William Branham Honest|Was it reasonable for William Branham to blame his poor grammar on his dad?]]
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#Did William Branham prayer for [[King George VI|King George VI and was he really healed?]]
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#[[Kari Holma|Did William Branham raise a boy from the dead in Finland?]]
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#Who was [[Hope Branham's Nurse]]?
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#Was [[Florence Nightingale]] the granddaughter of the original Florence Nightingale?
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#[[The Pillar of Fire|Did the Pillar of Fire really appear above William Branham's head in Houston?  Why did other pictures from that evening appear in the newspaper, when he said his picture was the only one that turned out?]]
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#[[Proposing to Hope Brumbach|Was William Branham truthful about asking Hope's parents for her hand in marriage?]]
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#[[William Branham's Double Standard#William Branham in Shorts|If only sissies wear shorts, why did William Branham wear them?]]
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#[[Leo Mercer|How could William Branham have allowed Leo Mercer to be part of his ministry?]]
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#[[An Uncertain Sound|Did William Branham claim to be a prophet?]]
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#[[The Nazarite Birth|Was William Branham born under a Nazarite Vow?]]
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#[[Discernment errors|Was William Branham's discernment 100% accurate?]]
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#[[Guessing the disease|Was William Branham's ministry always 100%?]]
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#[[The Mystery of the Empty Cornerstone|What was in the cornerstone of Branham Tabernacle?]]
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#[[William Branham's Travels|Did William Branham travel around the world seven times?]]
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#[[Billy Paul Branham|Why was William Branham dishonest about his son's first marriage?]]
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#[[Prophecy of the Cloud|Why was the vision of the five angels changed to a vision of seven angels?]]
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#[[Rattlesnake Mesa|Why did William Branham say that he was at Sunset Mountain when he was actually at Rattlesnake Mesa?]]
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#Why did William Branham make up [[The Story of the Pyramid Box|the story of the Pyramid Box]]?
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#[[Different Stories|Why did William Branham's stories change so radically over time?]]
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#[[The Perfect Man|Was William Branham really the first fruits of spiritual maturity?  The perfect man?]]
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#[[The Houston Photograph|Was the photo from Houston supernatural or just the out of focus picture of a flood light?]]
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#[[The Amber Light|Did William Branham see an amber light?]]
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#[[Jim Jones|Did William Branham help to launch the ministry of Jim Jones?]]
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#Was Marshal [[Matt Dillon]] from Gunsmoke a real person?
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#[[Is Joseph Branham a prophet?]]
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#Was there a [[Mormon prophecy about William Branham]]?
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#[[Prophecy: Danny Henry|Danny Henry message]]
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#[[William Branham's View of Himself|How did William Branham view himself?]]
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#[[William Branham and Money|Was William Branham a wealthy man when he died?]]
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#[[William Branham Speaking as God|If God spoke through William Branham, why did he mess up?]]
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#[[William Branham's Double Standard#William Branham the Hunter|If it was wrong to kill animals for sport, why did William Branham do it?]]
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#[[William Branham's Double Standard#William Branham at the Theatre|Why did William Branham deny that he went to movies 3 weeks after admitting that he did?]]
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#[[William Branham's Double Standard#William Branham, sold out for a Cadillac|Why did William Branham criticize those who drove Cadillac's when he owned one?]]
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#[[William Branham's Double Standard#Trimmed Hair & Short Skirts in the Branham Family|Why did William Branham criticize women that cut their hair and wore short skirts, when his own family did?]]
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#[[Arvel Mosier|What actually happened to Hattie Wright's boys?]]
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#[[William Branham on Suicide#Inaccuracies about William Cowper's death|Why did William Branham say he went to William Cowper's grave when he didn't?]]
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#[[William Branham on Suicide#Inaccuracies about William Cowper's death|Why did William Branham say William Cowper committed suicide when he died of heart failure?]]
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#[[William Branham on Suicide#Stephen Foster|Why did William Branham state the Stephen Foster committed suicide, when this is not true?]]
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#Was there really a connection between [[The Pope and the Lunar Eclipse|the Pope visiting israel in 1964 and the lunar eclipse that preceded his visit?]]
  
 
=Evidence that William Branham taught things that were not in scripture=
 
=Evidence that William Branham taught things that were not in scripture=

Revision as of 19:53, 24 March 2018

Is there evidence of William Branham's failed visions and prophecies? Is there proof that he lied?

Message followers often tell us that they will not look at the evidence because they have been called to "only believe".

But what does the Bible say we should look at?

What the Bible says about evidence

The bible clearly talks about the value of evidence.

Luke focused on evidence as proof the Gospel was true

The whole purpose of Luke's writings were to provide proof:

Luke 1:1-5:

Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us,  it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught. [1]

Acts 1:1-3 (written by Luke):

In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach, until the day when he was taken up, after he had given commands through the Holy Spirit to the apostles whom he had chosen.  He presented himself alive to them after his suffering by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days and speaking about the kingdom of God.[2]

Acts 9:22-23 (Paul provided proof to the Jews):

Saul’s preaching became more and more powerful, and the Jews in Damascus couldn’t refute his proofs that Jesus was indeed the Messiah.[3]

Jesus said we should look at the evidence

In John 14:11, the need to look at the evidence is clear:

Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.[4]

The need for 2-3 witnesses is required as evidence

Jesus outlined the requirement in Matthew 18:16:

...take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses.[5]

Paul made the requirement clear in 2 Corinthians 13:1:

Every matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.[6]

Paul also made the point clear in his instructions to Timothy in 1 Tim. 5:19-20:

Do not admit a charge against an elder except on the evidence of two or three witnesses. As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.[7]

Evidence related to William Branham's claim that he was a prophet

William Branham clearly claim status as a prophet:

To my precious dear brothers and sisters (See?), all of you, as a servant of God… I never said this before in the wor-… in—in this church, I've never said, but as a prophet of the Lord, I say to you, "This is the Light; walk ye in It."[8]

The scriptural test of a prophet is clear as outlined by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:

But if any prophet presumes to speak anything in my name that I have not authorized him to speak, or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. Now if you say to yourselves, ‘How can we tell that a message is not from the LORD?’—18:22 whenever a prophet speaks in my name and the prediction is not fulfilled, then I have not spoken it; the prophet has presumed to speak it, so you need not fear him.”[9]

While at first we found this almost impossible to believe, we have been unable to locate a single unambiguous prophecy that was made in advance in a public forum (on tape) and that was later clearly fulfilled. However, there are numerous examples of visions that were made publicly which failed (were not fulfilled) and prophecies that changed drastically over time. If you click on the individual lines below, they will take you to a detailed explanation of each issue.

How can William Branham be a true prophet of God if he failed the test of Deut 18:20-22?

Here are a list of questions you should ask yourself and examine the evidence to determine your own answer to each question:

  1. Did William Branham make any REAL prophecies? (We can't find any before the fact prophecies on any tape!)
  2. What did William Branham prophesy about Billy Graham? Did the prophecy come to pass? (this is either a failed prophecy or William Branham lied about the prophecy).
  3. Why did William Branham say that the municipal bridge vision was fulfilled when it clearly wasn't? (Failed Prophecy)
  4. Why did William Branham say "Thus Saith The Lord" that he would shoot a large brown bear, when he didn't? (Failed Prophecy)
  5. Why did the vision that William Branham had of the meetings in south Africa fail to be fulfilled? (Failed Prophecy)
  6. The Seven Ten Prophecies of 1933
    1. Why did William Branham prophecy that America would start World War 2? (Prophecy Changed/Failed Prophecy)
    2. Was Mussloni's invasion of Ethiopia really his last invasion? (Prophecy Changed/Failed Prophecy)
    3. Why did William Branham's prophecy of Hitler change over time? (Prophecy Changed)
    4. Did Facism, Nazisim and Communism really unite into Communism? (Failed Prophecy)
    5. Did the prophecy of egg-shaped come from William Branham's visit to the 1933 World's Fair? ("After the Fact" Prophecy)
    6. Was William Branham's prophecy of a driverless car based on a Disney TV program? ("After the Fact" Prophecy)
    7. Are women really going to wear a fig leaf apron and go topless? (Failed Prophecy)
    8. Did women elect the wrong person or was it the men's vote? ("After the Fact" Prophecy/Failed Prophecy)
    9. Why did William Branham state that the prophecy of the rise of the cruel woman in America was already fulfilled? (Failed Prophecy)
    10. Why did William Branham change his prophecy of the destruction of America? (Prophecy Changed)
  7. Why is Los Angeles still above water if Billy Paul is an old man? (Failed Prophecy)
  8. Was William Branham's death before the Rapture a failed prophecy? (Failed Prophecy)
  9. Why did William Branham state that Martin Luther King, Jr. would cause the death of millions, when this didn't happen? (Not a prophecy)
  10. Was William Branham's vision of Marilyn Monroe's death accurate? (Failed Prophecy)
  11. Why did William Branham change the vision of the angels appearing? (Prophecy Changed)
  12. Why did William Branham predict that the USA would be destroyed by 1977? (Failed Prophecy)
  13. Was the meeting of Nikita Khrushchev and Dwight Eisenhower the fulfillment of Daniel chapter 2? (Failed Prophecy)
  14. Will Russia destroy the Vatican? (Failed Prophecy)
  15. Why did William Branham say that man would never land on the moon... but the communists might? (Failed Prophecy)
  16. Was the prophecy of the World Council of Churches accurate? (Failed Prophecy)
  17. If the vision of the Plum and Apple Trees was from God, why did William Branham change his mind about it in 1965? (Prophecy Changed)
  18. Was the prophecy of the 1964 Alaska earthquake made after the fact? ("After the Fact" Prophecy)
  19. What is the Third Pull? Was it prophetic? (too vague to qualify as a bona fide prophecy)
  20. Did William Branham really prophecy where he would live? ("After the Fact" Prophecy)
  21. Why did William Branham mention the Ohio river flood years before he told of his prophecy without saying anything about it? ("After the Fact" Prophecy)
  22. Is Florida going under as well? (Ambiguous prophecy)
  23. Did William Branham prophesy his own death? (This was not a prophecy)
  24. Why did William Branham's original commissioning vision disappear? (This vision was abandoned by William Branham)
  25. Was the birth of Joseph Branham foretold? (Ambiguous prophecy)
  26. Was the death of Florence Shakarian prophesied before she died? (Ambiguous prophecy)
  27. Was William Branham's ministry foretold in a Santa Rosa church? ("After the Fact" Prophecy)

Evidence that William Branham lied

Mark Twain once said, "If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything."

The Bible plainly tells us in Titus and 1 Timothy what is expected of Christian leaders:

An elder must be blameless...[10]
For the overseer must be blameless as one entrusted with God’s work...[11]
The overseer then must be above reproach...[12]
And these also must be tested first and then let them serve as deacons if they are found blameless.[13]

William Branham portrayed himself as a simple, honest, uneducated man who was sent from God as a prophet to fore-run the second coming of Christ. But an important question is whether he was truthful over the pulpit. Each of the questions below examines and important issue regarding his credibility. If you click on the individual items below, they will take you to a detailed explanation of each issue. Examine the evidence for yourself and determine whether William Branham was truthful:

  1. Did William Branham lie about his prophecy regarding Billy Graham?
  2. Did anyone hear the voice on the Ohio River in 1933?
  3. Why did William Branham say that he was under the cloud when they took its picture, when he clearly wasn't?
  4. Did William Branham travel around the world seven times?
  5. Was William Branham's Bible saved miraculously in the 1937 flood?
  6. Why did the story of the man from Windsor change so drastically over time?
  7. Why did William Branham say that he received his revelations from God when he took many of his doctrines from other men?
  8. Why did William Branham change the story of Congressman Upshaw's healing?
  9. When did William Branham embrace Pentecostalism?
  10. Was Donny Morton really healed?
  11. Did William Branham speak in an unknown tongue that a Finnish woman understood?
  12. Was it reasonable for William Branham to blame his poor grammar on his dad?
  13. Did William Branham prayer for King George VI and was he really healed?
  14. Did William Branham raise a boy from the dead in Finland?
  15. Who was Hope Branham's Nurse?
  16. Was Florence Nightingale the granddaughter of the original Florence Nightingale?
  17. Did the Pillar of Fire really appear above William Branham's head in Houston? Why did other pictures from that evening appear in the newspaper, when he said his picture was the only one that turned out?
  18. Was William Branham truthful about asking Hope's parents for her hand in marriage?
  19. If only sissies wear shorts, why did William Branham wear them?
  20. How could William Branham have allowed Leo Mercer to be part of his ministry?
  21. Did William Branham claim to be a prophet?
  22. Was William Branham born under a Nazarite Vow?
  23. Was William Branham's discernment 100% accurate?
  24. Was William Branham's ministry always 100%?
  25. What was in the cornerstone of Branham Tabernacle?
  26. Did William Branham travel around the world seven times?
  27. Why was William Branham dishonest about his son's first marriage?
  28. Why was the vision of the five angels changed to a vision of seven angels?
  29. Why did William Branham say that he was at Sunset Mountain when he was actually at Rattlesnake Mesa?
  30. Why did William Branham make up the story of the Pyramid Box?
  31. Why did William Branham's stories change so radically over time?
  32. Was William Branham really the first fruits of spiritual maturity? The perfect man?
  33. Was the photo from Houston supernatural or just the out of focus picture of a flood light?
  34. Did William Branham see an amber light?
  35. Did William Branham help to launch the ministry of Jim Jones?
  36. Was Marshal Matt Dillon from Gunsmoke a real person?
  37. Is Joseph Branham a prophet?
  38. Was there a Mormon prophecy about William Branham?
  39. Danny Henry message
  40. How did William Branham view himself?
  41. Was William Branham a wealthy man when he died?
  42. If God spoke through William Branham, why did he mess up?
  43. If it was wrong to kill animals for sport, why did William Branham do it?
  44. Why did William Branham deny that he went to movies 3 weeks after admitting that he did?
  45. Why did William Branham criticize those who drove Cadillac's when he owned one?
  46. Why did William Branham criticize women that cut their hair and wore short skirts, when his own family did?
  47. What actually happened to Hattie Wright's boys?
  48. Why did William Branham say he went to William Cowper's grave when he didn't?
  49. Why did William Branham say William Cowper committed suicide when he died of heart failure?
  50. Why did William Branham state the Stephen Foster committed suicide, when this is not true?
  51. Was there really a connection between the Pope visiting israel in 1964 and the lunar eclipse that preceded his visit?

Evidence that William Branham taught things that were not in scripture

Footnotes

  1. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2016), Lk 1:1–5.
  2. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2016), Ac 1:1–3.
  3. Tyndale House Publishers, Holy Bible: New Living Translation (Carol Stream, IL: Tyndale House Publishers, 2013), Ac 9:22–23.
  4. The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), Jn 14:11.
  5. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2016), Mt 18:16.
  6. The New International Version (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2011), 2 Co 13:1.
  7. The Holy Bible: English Standard Version (Wheaton: Standard Bible Society, 2016), 1 Ti 5:19–20.
  8. 61-0813 - Faith
  9. Biblical Studies Press, The NET Bible First Edition; Bible. English. NET Bible.; The NET Bible (Biblical Studies Press, 2005), Dt 18:20–22.
  10. Titus 1:6 (NET)
  11. Titus 1:7 (NET)
  12. 1 Timothy 3:2 (NET)
  13. 1 Timothy 3:10 (NET)


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